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New-Tip4903 t1_j6jvinr wrote

Humans and Dinosaurs missed each other by about 65 million years

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klonkrieger43 t1_j6k7fgz wrote

Our ancestors aren't necessarily human

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Natganistan t1_j6khlia wrote

The history of evolution on earth is so fucking cool. It's a shame that so many people are either scared of evolution or don't care to learn about it.

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teastain t1_j6khppa wrote

Only small mammals survived the Chicxulub extinction, no apes, no horses, cows. So the mammal prototype of one heart, two lungs, four limbs is what we evolved from.

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AxialGem t1_j6kjjnr wrote

>one heart, two lungs, four limbs

That's the ancestral condition for all tetrapods, not just mammals of course :p

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FindorKotor93 t1_j6kqez6 wrote

Yup, the mammal template by this point was Warm Blood, Specialised Teeth, legs below plane of body.

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I-dont-rickroll t1_j6md6ac wrote

Warm blood and fetus that grow in their belly, you forgot this part.

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FindorKotor93 t1_j6n2oqm wrote

I don't know why you're getting downvoted, but yes I did forget live birth.

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TheEightSea t1_j6mgp2r wrote

The apes are literally this little fella's descendants. Like cows and horses, BTW.

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AxialGem t1_j6jyrnz wrote

We still have direct ancestors that survived the K-Pg extinction event. OP didn't say they had to be human

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Old_AP_Pro t1_j6lls0s wrote

True. But your ancestors still survived the dinosaurs.

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Raichu7 t1_j6mj7ko wrote

If the ancestors of humans weren’t around on earth at the same time as dinosaurs, then what did humans evolve from when you look that far back? Aliens?

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Jump_Like_A_Willys t1_j6nvjnl wrote

Dinosaur? I think you mean a "Jesus horse"

Seriously though, our ancestors were the shrew-like mammals that survived the K-T extinction event that ended the dinosaur era.

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RiC_David t1_j6m92jk wrote

But there's always a crossover point...

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AxialGem t1_j6maayi wrote

Wait what do you mean with 'crossover point?'

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SecretlyaPolarBear t1_j6lho40 wrote

We’re here only because those mass extinctions occurred. Many of our physical features are a result as well. We can eat and breathe at the same time because our ancestors survived the great dying. we have thumbs because the small mammals that outlived the Dinos found a niche eating fruit in trees, also resulting in our lack of onboard vitamin C production

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Chickadee248 t1_j6kp6dd wrote

We all share one female ancestor and one male ancestor, though they never met each other. Mitochondrial Eve and Chromosomal Adam.

So technically we're all cousins.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m87bg wrote

Hi cousin

Also.. Does that mean .... Sweet Home Alabama.

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Chickadee248 t1_j6mlvmi wrote

It most absolutely does cuz 😎 I teach middle school history. I intro'd this concept with something like "Who thinks Zendaya is cute? Wow. She is your COUSIN. That is DISGUSTING." They got a kick out of it.

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icelandichorsey t1_j6k37ni wrote

Next time you do stupid shit like be anti-vax or anti-science, consider your ancestors who survived the various plagues and wars and bears and shit and maybe try and improve yourself instead?

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The_Sown_Rose t1_j6ki2c8 wrote

To be fair to the anti-vax crowd, there is a certain negative logic in this: the vast majority of those ancestors, all but the last seven or so generations of them, survived all of that shit without vaccines, at least long enough to reproduce.

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klonkrieger43 t1_j6kle4d wrote

yeah but a huge lot of them also died long before that.

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The_Sown_Rose t1_j6klqpk wrote

How would that work? Everything alive today has an unbroken reproductive line back to the first life on earth, by definition absolutely none of anyone’s direct line ancestors died before reaching reproductive age.

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klonkrieger43 t1_j6km5o9 wrote

I am not talking about direct ancestors, but ancestors. A lot of your great-great-great....-aunts and uncles died, because of lacking medicine hygiene, famine, war, accidents and a whole lot of other preventable reasons.
The argument that humanity survived before vaccines is like this dumb tweet that the black plague disappeared on its own. It just killed a third of Europe's population to do so.

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kunbish t1_j6lfgpk wrote

Right but an antivaxxer might say something about the strong surviving, dont mess with nature, etc. that argument works in the simplest sense, because it disregards any ancestors that arent direct ones as weak and irrelevant lol. Obviously its a flawed argument when you think critically for more than three seconds.

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spaceship247 t1_j6liwe3 wrote

That’s quite right and reputable medical journals such as The British Medical Journal consistently document the superiority of the bodies’ own immune response to being exposed to the virus via person to person transmission over the response produced by any of the current vaccines.

Those hundreds of millions/billions of years of evolution have given us immune systems far more complex and capable than that of an altered version of the virus.

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icelandichorsey t1_j6lysyz wrote

Really? How many diseases have we wiped out before the vaccines and how many with?

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Yeetthataccount_1118 t1_j6m889t wrote

We’ve wiped out two or three viruses. We didn’t have to deal too much with Tetanus or Polio now with vaccines.

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spaceship247 t1_j6nbw5r wrote

Wiped out? Or gained immunity to?

Over billions of years? How many viruses? Compared to the 100 or so years of vaccination?

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jamiecarl09 t1_j6krgme wrote

I'd prefer they anti-vax crowd thin their own herd. For the good of the species.

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icelandichorsey t1_j6lyv3y wrote

Unfortunately we can't segregate them and actually I don't want to. They're people too and I don't want them to die from doing something stupid.

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chrisman1409 t1_j6kgl36 wrote

You’re just preaching to the choir, you have no idea about how people become anti vax or whatever

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explodingtuna t1_j6kjz6e wrote

Fox News and political propagandization?

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Megafister420 t1_j6kxqro wrote

Yeah that's literly it, iv had multiple anti vaxers in my family, and it's either fox news, or some outdated news post 12 years ago that says kids could get autism (which I would think to be better then a terminal illness but whatever)

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pifuhvpnVHNHv t1_j6mpnsg wrote

All the anti vaxers will die out soon enough anyway. Evolution will fix it.

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Drink15 t1_j6mhenq wrote

You can say that about every virus that has ever existed during any point in time because none of them have ever wiped out the entire human race. We have always survived. The point of a vax is to get more people to survive.

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DarthDregan t1_j6kofhg wrote

I'm the end of the line.

No kids now, no kids ever, sister was murdered at 12, no other siblings, parents both too old for more.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m8948 wrote

I'm sorry for your sister .. :(

Welp not really the end of the line for your grandpa/etc if you have cousins and nephew/niece

End for your personal yes but eh doesn't really matter.

Also you can donate sperm/egg help someone who wants a kid maybe.

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Drink15 t1_j6mhmoo wrote

That would mean she/he is no longer “the end of the line” if she/he donates and it’s used

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Arinupa OP t1_j6mitbn wrote

Obviously. That's why suggested it, if they want that.

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hyteck9 t1_j6jyc24 wrote

Actually, most of us have 1 ancestor.... Genghis Khan. That boy was BUSY.

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KingMwanga t1_j6jzy6y wrote

0.5% of men are descendants of ghengis khan

If you’re white there’s a high chance you’re a descendant of charlamagne

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PaninicalaBacnk t1_j6lb4rr wrote

Why are there high chances to be descendant of Charlamagne? Didn't he hav only one wife? Unlike Genghis

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Jump_Like_A_Willys t1_j6nx0re wrote

Not me. I'm descended from some guy named Steve who was Charlamagne's cousin's gardener.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m8hwj wrote

Ain't my ancestor I don't think.

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E_B_Jamisen t1_j6k1mhh wrote

And we are about to break family tradition and be the primary victims of the 6th global mass extinction ...

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AxialGem t1_j6kkah9 wrote

Tbh if you'd ask me which species were gonna survive the current mass extinction, humans would be near the top of my list

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Megafister420 t1_j6ky9fd wrote

Same thoughts here, humans are severely underrated in terms of survivability, and adaptability. We're in every continent for a reason.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m8gs1 wrote

Soon gonna be on every star this side of proxima century

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RiC_David t1_j6m8vhy wrote

Underrated? This has to be the least fitting use of the term I've ever heard! Who on earth has ever underrated the human knack for survival?

Surely the fact that we exist should prevent that idea from ever existing?

I mean we've done pretty well.

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Megafister420 t1_j6ogirh wrote

You clearly haven't heard all the shit talk humans give humans then

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m8el8 wrote

The primary cause id say! The victims are all the ones already extinct and on their way.

:D

And we aren't, the big corpos are.

Neighbors down the street ain't responsible for anthropogenic global extinction but big oil corporate house which lobbies against change is

There is a difference between them and us. Almost a whole different species you could say.

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Energetic_Baseball_ t1_j6jurxz wrote

Wow, that's amazing! It sure is a testament to the strength & resilience of our ancestors and it gives us hope for the future. We should take this as a reminder to be mindful of our actions and take responsibility for the world we leave behind.

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NorthImpossible8906 t1_j6k4tyv wrote

yeah, keep in mind that they were mostly just tiny rat-like creatures who fucked all the time.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6jv0zx wrote

True. The past can give strength.. We are at a point where we have so much to lose. We should struggle to leave a good, habitable world behind.

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out2seeagain t1_j6m71s0 wrote

I have the pictures, my great great great great great great great great great Uncle Uga Ugauga used to ride a pterodactyl to and from school every day.

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Ravenwight t1_j6mxz9g wrote

Nah my family came over on the Blyzerxh, it’s like an alien mayflower, but it only arrived a couple hundred years ago

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Smeghead333 t1_j6niy3s wrote

All of us have the same ancestors that survived those events.

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bsheelflip t1_j6nm2q9 wrote

I wish that "where were your ancestors during the asteroid?" could replace smalltalk.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6nr4ob wrote

Probably cowering under a dunghill.

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Tomma1 t1_j6oiswt wrote

With all the crap in the world right now maybe some should have been left behind? Oh and theres a slight gap between man and dinosaurs

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psycholepzy t1_j6kpeev wrote

We have a whole lot more ancestors who didnt survive any of those. We made the race!

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icthalian t1_j6mjzmq wrote

Applying your implied logic that these ancestors of ours weren’t human, as we know it, we didn’t ‘outlive the dinosaurs’. Their ancestors are still here too.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6mkhtd wrote

Some of The dino descendants are here ye, birds and shit.

They also outlived the dinos... In a changed form.

Their ancestors or ours didn't outlive anyone though. Okly descendants.

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Obiwan_ca_blowme t1_j6ks5ra wrote

And not a single one was gay.

I know, I know, you can be gay but be in a heterosexual relationship out of fear or whatnot. What if I said “a practicing homosexual.”?

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RiC_David t1_j6m8l0v wrote

And by law of probability, many of them were bisexual.

Procreating with the opposite sex, taking a pleasure ride with the same.

So gay sex is nature approved so long as you're bi then, right? Okay then.

See you later.

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Arinupa OP t1_j6m84g1 wrote

You in the closet homie.

Your user name is Obiwan Blowme.. And... Uhhhh this is living rent free in your head

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