Combatical t1_j7usg9z wrote
Reply to comment by ICanSeeRoundCorners in ‘We are not forgotten’: Formerly deported veterans become U.S. citizens in special San Diego ceremony by ProgressiveSnark2
Are you saying the people in this article committed crimes?
ICanSeeRoundCorners t1_j7uto3d wrote
Largely, yes. The article says the main guy profiled had a felony conviction. Now that could be a wide range of things; in a lot of cases it's drug related but in a fair amount it's violent crimes.
Combatical t1_j7uyzfi wrote
Digging around all I can find is this same copy and pasted article. I want to know what he was actually charged with originally. I found some disturbing stuff about a guy with a similar name but I cant be sure its this guy.
ICanSeeRoundCorners t1_j7vjqn1 wrote
Yeah I wouldn't say that they all deserve deportation. Drug charges are a pretty frequent source of felony convictions and deportation seems unwarranted in those cases. I'm don't think it's unfair to deny citizenship to those who commit violent crimes though. I have don't know what the guy in the article was originally charged with. I do know when I've seen article in the past that profiled/interviewed a couple of these guys, several of them had committed shootings and or robberies.
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gandalf_el_brown t1_j7vbzes wrote
Isn't being in the US illegally considered a felony
ICanSeeRoundCorners t1_j7vkpsj wrote
I don't know enough to answer for certain. The main guy in this article had a green card though, so he wasn't here illegally, but it was revoked when he was charged or convicted. I imagine most of these guys had similar immigration statuses. I don't think an illegal immigrant can join the military. I'm not an expert though so I might be wrong.
vt1032 t1_j7w0x5w wrote
No. Illegal entry can be charged as a misdemeanor (8 usc 1325) but rarely is. Illegal re-entry after a formal removal can be charged as a felony (8 usc 1326) but again that's fairly rare and you more see it used in extreme cases where that wasn't the only crime, or in cases of people who repeatedly get caught doing it.
Administrative grounds of inadmissibility resulting in voluntary returns or final/expedited orders of removal are much more common.
If they were unlawfully present (regardless of entry method, so visa overstays and illegal entry) for more than 6 months or more than a year, and then departed the US, that also triggers administrative grounds of inadmissibility that bar later legal re-entry for certain periods of time, but would not be a felony.
vt1032 t1_j7w0q5y wrote
No. Illegal entry can be charged as a misdemeanor (8 usc 1325) but rarely is. Illegal re-entry after a formal removal can be charged as a felony (8 usc 1326) but again that's fairly rare and you more see it used in extreme cases where that wasn't the only crime, or in cases of people who repeatedly get caught doing it.
Mostly administrative grounds of inadmissibility resulting in voluntary returns or final/expedited orders of removal are much more common.
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