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bingold49 t1_j8k18xt wrote

You can also roll the dice on needing a 15k dollar battery replacement, we are talking new purchase vehicles in this article

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Xyrus2000 t1_j8l4dru wrote

What are you talking about? Battery packs/drive train are warrantied for just as long, if not longer, than ICE engines.

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Bearman71 t1_j8k1cx8 wrote

That's not even close to being part of the discussion, but I also don't keep cars past their warranty period.

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bingold49 t1_j8k1zxk wrote

Ok, we are still talking average price, every new ice vehicle doesn't start at 44k

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Xyrus2000 t1_j8l4gzk wrote

Every new EV doesn't start at 66k either. What's your point?

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Bearman71 t1_j8k2j1s wrote

Ice cars also don't have a tesla that registered every trim line of the model s as a different car fucking up the averages.

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bingold49 t1_j8k3rze wrote

But they also don't have 15k Nissan sentras on the other side of that

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Bearman71 t1_j8k4f71 wrote

They do have a 26k leaf so electric vehicles are still affordable, sure. You're not buying a tesla loaded with the big fuck off battery, 4 motors, super cruise, and every other option, but affordable options are out there if you want one.

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Xyrus2000 t1_j8l4vpb wrote

How long has ICE technology been around in mass production?

You really are hell-bent on comparing apples to oranges. EV prices continue to drop. There are several options for EVs in the mid $20K range. Add in the fact that EVs require a fraction of the maintenance and that $10K or so price difference starts looking pretty small.

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Ineludible_Ruin t1_j8lbyea wrote

What EVs are readily available (outside of tesla) that are around the size of a normal car, civic, sentra, accord, camry... that are similar price to the ice versions I just named? (Maybe some of those have an ev version?)

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Xyrus2000 t1_j8mk09i wrote

The Nissan Leaf and the Chevy Bolt are in that price range. There are a couple of others that get into that price range with incentives, but the usefulness of incentives depends on your taxes.

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Ineludible_Ruin t1_j8n2hwr wrote

The leaf has always seemed so small to me, though it is 10inches shorter than a civic. I don't get why they're so.... aesthetically unappealing. That's just an opinion though. Same for the chevy bolt. Those EVs and the prius have similar looks and hatchback... the Teslas look more like a normal car like the civic or accord or camry. Maybe there's a reason the others look like that. Aerodynamics while Tesla isn't quite that concerned about it?

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