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Harbinger2001 t1_j9ke57s wrote

In the long term, it’s the right decision. Nuclear was the right option to get off coal/LNG/oil 20-30 years ago. But now the right option is renewables. They are cheaper than nuclear and can come online far faster. Ironically, the oil and gas industry is pushing for nuclear over renewables because it will buy them more time to extract profits.

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watduhdamhell t1_j9khzyl wrote

Sorry but we'll just have to disagree here.

And no, the oil and gas industry is not pushing for nuclear. They have astroturfed/bankrolled the largest anti nuclear "environmental" groups for decades in an attempt to kill off nuclear (like the dipshits in Germany) and force the necessity of more fossil fuel base load plants (again, like the dipshits in Germany).

The bottom line is there is no form of energy on earth with the combination of desirable traits (clean/virtual zero emissions, energy capacity and energy density, capacity factor, and safety) that can compare to nuclear. Literally only solar is safer, and not by much per TWh.

If there is going to be a realistic net zero future, you're going to need nuclear base load plants supplemented by renewables and their overcapacity as replacement for peaker plants. Renewables as a total replacement for base load via overcapacity and batteries is totally infeasible, given the space requirements one would need for overcapacity is so great that energy storage is no longer an issue.

It's also worth noting that radioactive waste, all of which produced to this point couldn't even fill a single football field at two casks high, is able to be processed and reused, with 96% reclamation rate, with the half life being reduced from 10k years to a few hundred. This tech has existed since the late 80s, along with melt-down-proof reactors, but was cancelled due to ignorance and politics. Luckily, the climate crisis is causing people to dig it up and develop new tech inspired by it, like the new liquid sodium SMRs that are being proposed.

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magicsonar t1_j9rhmb1 wrote

This is absolutely right. The fossil fuel industry has done an amazing job at holding back the development of nuclear. In countries like Australia, which have some of the largest per Capita carbon emissions, and who coincidentally have the world's third largest coal reserves, have a moratorium on nuclear energy. It's never been properly explained why. And now fossil fuel is back with a vengeance - all because of the Ukraine war. After decades of being on the back foot, it's now being embraced again. And no one in Europe is talking about emission targets. Oil and gas company profits are at an all time high. Security and war is the only thing that matters. If I was a powerful fossil fuel executive I would probably think it's a good investment to align myself with the military industrial complex to push for a prolonged war in Ukraine.

It's interesting, if you look at the Western oil companies that were operating in Russia (Chevron, BP, Exxon, Equinor etc) and profiting from the corrupt Russian State, you might think they financially suffered due to the war and sanctions. The exact opposite. Profits have never been higher because they took out their main competition.

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