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SilverNicktail t1_iul4aov wrote

Reply to comment by MTFHammerDown in The shrinking ozone hole shows that the world can actually solve an environmental crisis by wicke_s

Not 20%, more like 50%, but significantly reduced over the "do bugger all" scenario. A long way to go, but progress has been made. Gotta keep fighting the rest of the way.

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MTFHammerDown t1_iulb3uy wrote

Hey, even 50% is very encouraging. Thank you for the correction though.

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grimey493 t1_iuloii9 wrote

Can you link that pls.Fairly recent IPCC stats say something very different,especially with the resumption of thousands more coal plants,millions more cars,etc etc.

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floralfemmeforest t1_iuohi7k wrote

I posted the link to this same subreddit last week! You can go to my profile and find it

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TalkOk6693 t1_ium8d66 wrote

God let me just focus on the positive for once .

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hak8or t1_iumaoyf wrote

It's important to be realistic too.

It's equivalent to feeding all the homeless in NYC for a day and saying how it's "amazing progress" in ensuring no one ever starves in the world. Yeah sure, it's a great change, but in the quantitative sense it did bugger all for the world's homeless.

A glimmer of hope is nice, but it's also critical to be realistic and not let that glimmer turn into thinking it's a guarantee all will be alright.

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sault18 t1_iummiq4 wrote

No, in your analogy, the Montreal Protocol would be like solving homelessness completely in NYC. Now we just need to take that process we know works and repeat it for every major city in the world. Maybe tweak things for specific cities or whatever, but definitely repeat how this was done.

What I'm saying is we need more cooperation and comprehensive international agreements copying the example of the Montreal Protocol.

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LALA-STL t1_iumcdrg wrote

That scenario of “feeding the homeless for one day in NYC” might not solve world hunger, but it would be pretty darn meaningful if you were a hungry person who got a meal.

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hak8or t1_iumhe7q wrote

I don't disagree, it could even save their life. Though I don't see what relevance that has to what I said?

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LALA-STL t1_iuo5tzb wrote

Sorry, fren. I agree with you too. Your comment just reminded me of the corny story about the kid on a beach who keeps tossing the stranded starfish back into the ocean. His dad says, “Why bother? There’s thousands of starfish on this beach. You won’t make a difference.” So the kid tosses back another starfish & says, “It made a difference to that one.”

Moral of the story: Even if we can’t solve the entire problem, let’s do what we can.

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