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NobleRotter t1_iz6isnv wrote

I'm going to have very mixed feelings if this ends with history naming Putin as the saviour of the world

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cormac596 t1_iz6tbfp wrote

Not the savior, but the catalyst. The straw that broke the camel's back as it were

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Extension-Ad-2760 t1_iz6tpmn wrote

Similarly, Hitler really helped to eliminate antisemitism. Most of Europe was quite antisemitic (though not to... *that...*level) before the war. That changed very quickly afterwards

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grafknives t1_iz9krrt wrote

He also helped to eradicate most vivid racism and eugenics eugenics etc from the USA. (from where he got those ideas in the first place)

To the point that is not rememberer to the proper extent.

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onetimenative t1_iz9mx4w wrote

Neither of these topics were eliminated or eradicated ... they were temporarily reduced or regressed but they have always remained. These traits are still there, they are still a force in society, they just are not as popular as they once were. Place the right amount of propaganda around anything and you can make the public believe anything .... even in this day in age.

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CO2_3M_Year_Peak t1_izw06bd wrote

The Holocaust exterminated most European Jews. Afterward there weren't many Jews left to be a focal point for antisemitism

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AsFarAsItGoes t1_iz6x4f6 wrote

Adolf Hitler paradoxically lead Europe into an age of unprecedented unity (the European Union), decline of open imperialism (GB, France, Japan, and many more gave up their imperialistic ambitions), and decades of insane technological and economical advances.

Hitler is not - and of course should not - be known for “doing” all that, because it was not what he had in mind.

In the same vein, Putin will not become “the savior”, even if his actions ultimately help the global society. He did not plan on helping, and he is not going to be credited for it.

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BadMedAdvice t1_iz76tk2 wrote

Just as Hitler created a problem that others solved, I doubt Putin will be remembered for driving innovation here.

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TheNeverWere t1_iz6mv87 wrote

If that's the great irony that'll take to do it, I'll do it in a heartbeat.

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u9Nails t1_iz6ofkp wrote

I'll sooner prefer his name removed from history. But if this makes him infamous, that's a second option

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Ok-Wasabi2873 t1_iz6q3su wrote

At the beginning of the war, I had mentioned that Putin could go down as the biggest promoter of renewables, green-energy and energy independence.

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8urnMeTwice t1_iz7kodv wrote

And Trump will go down as the President who inspired greater voter participation in even midterm elections

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