SilverNicktail t1_j127neo wrote
Reply to comment by hackulator in Manufacturing, importing straws and other single-use plastics now banned in Canada by CobaltEmu
You realise that plastic bags, takeout containers, etc are fossil fuel products, right? Aside from plastic pollution being an obvious environmental issue visible to anyone walking down any side street anywhere, it's one more chip in the oil wall.
On top of that, the ban this year is for companies, not consumers. It is a domestic production and import ban. The consumer purchase ban is next year. So you're completely off on that, too.
hackulator t1_j12r13k wrote
Any policy that are changing what end user consumers can do are basically meaningless.
SuaveMofo t1_j131vbv wrote
You can't want to have a cleaner, healthier environment and still get plastic straws and containers. There are and will be sacrifices we are all going to have to make.
OneMisterSir101 t1_j13mwor wrote
Completely missing their point. They're not saying we don't have to make sacrifices. They're saying that policy that targets end-users only addresses a very small part of the problem while at the same time making the most apparently visible change.
SilverNicktail t1_j151f2d wrote
The ban coming into effect today is for producers and importers, not end users.
AngryKrumpet t1_j18rhvm wrote
People never understand how banning single-use plastics is worth it...they never seem to consider the emissions produced solely from producing these products.
SilverNicktail t1_j12wxdb wrote
Utter nonsense. By that logic an ICE car sales ban would do nothing to reduce emissions. Never mind that the end-user purchase ban comes in next year, and you've completely skipped over the ban being introduced today, which is a domestic manufacturing and import ban. You know, one aimed at the companies producing the products? "Placing the onus on corporations?"
hackulator t1_j14titc wrote
And see here is the thing: that ban WOULD do almost nothing, because there are single container ships which produce more emissions than an entire country worth of cars.
SilverNicktail t1_j150je0 wrote
[Citation needed]
Here's one for you: 75% of transport emissions come from road vehicles:
https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport
I know it's illegal to admit you're wrong on the Internet, but maybe if someone points out you're wrong, just pulling shit out of your ass isn't the best way to take in that information.
Not that any of this changes the point that you skipped over this ban being aimed at corporations first and misrepresented it as something that exclusively targets consumers. That was the actual point being addressed.
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