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PacificIsMyHome t1_isdysfo wrote

I am in the area this hospital services. This is bad, but is a foreseeable outcome of the current situation. I have a neighbor with a degenerative kidney disease, who recently spent a week in this very hospital after an episode. The staff that are still there really want to help, and are awesome, but the Franciscan system is plagued by problems.

https://www.insideindianabusiness.com/articles/franciscan-deals-with-payroll-system-hack

they got hacked, funny all our local reporting only calls out hospitals in the Seattle Area, unless you hit the Sun, who also don't report the whole story.

https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news/2022/10/08/records-outage-staffing-shortage-continue-plague-kitsaps-er/8207654001/

before the hack there were retention problems and staff shortages (on going) from pandemic fatigue that have exacerbated the problem, so now the short staff have to deal with the no computers issue and it's all falling apart. I would go to a hospital 40 min away before trying to get admitted to our ER that is 7 min away.

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Law_Easy t1_iseel4z wrote

Our hospital had retention bonuses about to be paid out. I am concerned to see how many resignations posted the day after the money hits the bank.

On top of the Kronos hack, and the hospitals saying they have “budget shortage,” I am very concerned for my community.

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whitepawn23 t1_isezw1w wrote

Hospital administration spent decades creating this beast. Now everyone is reaping what they sowed.

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whitepawn23 t1_isez4z3 wrote

Washington is a borderline shitshow. The rest of the west coast is locked down into solidly safe care but WA is flailing.

We NEED HB1868 resurrected. House passed it. Senate killed it.

I say this as an actively working bedside nurse. One who travels. One who says fuck no to WA contracts now. Create the staffing/patient safety (they’re one and the same) and the nurses will follow.

Even the WSNA isn’t making it happen. They’re trying, but failing.

Hospitals will never make it happen on their own. We need legislation to fix this shit.

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Gizwizard t1_isft0bt wrote

If you’re saying the rest of the west coast has solidly safe staffing… then I’m scared for how bad it is in WA. Because here, in OR, it is not safe…

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whitepawn23 t1_ish1jx5 wrote

Weird. Every contract I’ve taken there has had a great set up, and I only see it when they’re hiring travelers. Mileage varies by hospital ofc. Granted, I work the floor, not ED. ED is very separate from the rest of the hospital, they even have their own charting which the rest of us can’t usually access (for data entry).

And HB1868 would’ve blown away Oregon staffing numbers, even adding CNA ratios. WA senate caved to the hospital lobby and killed it. I believe it would’ve given ED RNs 3? or less, but I’d have to look it up again.

Good ratios attract staff who can (have and will) choose to stop working bedside when ratios suck. And yet here we are with a dead bill.

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Quack100 t1_isgdymm wrote

Wage shortage not a labor shortage.

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[deleted] t1_isghn3q wrote

For once--I don't think low pay is is actually the core problem. In WA, nurses are paid more than any other industry with the same education level (AS or BS) and per hour, the experienced nurses I know work 30 hours and make six figures.

The problem is the hospitals will not hire more people. Not, there are open positions. Hospitals are cutting headcount. Actively.

Not only that, but we do not have enough nursing schools. Baby boomer nurses are retiring and there are years-long waitlists to get into nursing school. You have to have a higher GPA for many nursing schools than you do to get into med school (4.0 is the min unless you have exceptional extenuating circumstances for your essay).

I know many nurses who frequently top $100 per hour not to mention call. But many of these people quit their hospitals when it became obvious that they could be sued for the inevitable death of patients, due to shortages.

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zomg1117 t1_isf1ebq wrote

She didn’t call 911…

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Ukinamtabbed t1_isg2xhh wrote

This is one of the reasons why the us is importing RNs. Nurses from countries like the Philippines are faced with 10 to 20 patients per nurse daily. And when they get here, the most toxic American hospital shift is a normal day for them.

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