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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwuguim wrote

Ah so you want the government to dictate morality. Sounds like you should move to Iran, they even have a police force specifically to do this!

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warbeforepeace t1_iwv932y wrote

Not about the morality to it but the cost of things should take into account the cost to society.

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwx7vku wrote

Like what exactly? How are these taxes being used to mitigate that damage vs just filling general fund coffers? I’m talking about direct action not bullshit grift programs like “raising awareness” or whatever.

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warbeforepeace t1_iwx87uq wrote

Increased cost of healthcare , law enforcement, criminal activity due to alcohol. Washington’s goes in to main revenue fund. It helps go to these costs and preventing something like an income tax in the state.

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwxgs57 wrote

Ah so yeah, it goes into grifting bullshit “general fund”

Show me that money going directly to what’s it intended for or it’s just the state reaching into the pockets of the working class for no good reason.

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warbeforepeace t1_iwxh4vm wrote

Seems like you need to do a bit of research on what taxes go toward. Just because you dont' benefit from every dollar spent directly doesn't mean you are not in benefit of the money spent. As someone that pays more taxes than most people, i don't agree with everything my taxes are spent on but do understand the reasoning of why they choose to invest in x.

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwxipzy wrote

No that’s not at all what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that if the government is specifically taxing something “because of all the harm it does society” and then doesn’t actually spend that money exclusively on those issues then it’s a fucking scam.

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warbeforepeace t1_iwxiwbt wrote

I doubt alcohol tax covers the cost that the state government pays for services i mentioned above. 24b of the budget alone is spent on health care.

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwxjlxq wrote

Pretty sure it’s about double that and I’ve never been able to find a good breakdown of the actual costs. Run a business like that and you’ll go to jail for fraud.

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warbeforepeace t1_iwxkdmo wrote

Im not sure what part of the revenue category it falls in but Washington state brought in 53b in 2021. 48b of it is not from alcohol tax.

https://www.wastatepta.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2021-Citizens-Guide-to-Operating-Budget.pdf

Companies don't have to disclose alot of information. They use private subsidiaries to hide any detailed financial breakdowns they want. They government is held to a much higher level of transparency than even a public company.

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beatansem t1_iwv3nrl wrote

It doesn’t take morals to see that alcohol is a legal poison 🤷🏼‍♀️

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwx88tj wrote

There are a lot of people that feel the same way, with just as much certainty, about gay marriage or a whole host of other “moral issues”. You are strengthening their arguments here with attitudes like that…..

“It’s only the things that I personally don’t like that we should have the government regulate”

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beatansem t1_iwx9emk wrote

I am not thinking that much into this take I’m just not upset that alcohol is expensive or otherwise more difficult to access considering it’s harmful effects (big and small)

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RevengeOfTheDong t1_iwxias5 wrote

Hope you feel the same way about junk food, fast food, and a whole bunch of other every day products which are terrible for your health

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