playfulmessenger t1_j0zqnma wrote
Reply to comment by factotvm in It is 7:34 in the morning the day before the winter solstice. Look outside right now, and know that if we did “Daylight Saving” time year round, it would be 8:34. by factotvm
So you hate democracy and want to impose your "correct" will on all of PST who already voted on what they want? Did you really just propose that? I don't think you want to assign yourself time dictator and try to overtake the world, right? Surely something is being lost in transition?
factotvm OP t1_j0zsncc wrote
Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others.
If I were hoping to be a dictator, why would I try and sway public opinion on Reddit? My hope is to remind folks that they’re about to repeat the same mistake 50 years later. The beauty of clocks (and “clockwise”) is our Sol. If humans embrace the heavens, instead of thinking we control it, we will reconnect with nature.
bwaibel t1_j108j8r wrote
Solar noon is almost never at noon. If we were to follow your logic we’d have a different time at every point on earth. Instead we made an approximation that tends to work ok, it’s better than the same time everywhere I think.
In the end which time slot you’re in just barely matters. What matters is that it’s totally ridiculous to shift the slot twice a year. If people want solar noon at 12:45 instead of 11:45 it makes no difference. Permanent DST is nice on the west coast because it puts the whole country on a tighter clock. I think that’s a material benefit that far outweighs the ridiculous argument you’re making about the definition of the word meridian.
CheckmateApostates t1_j12fdnb wrote
Right, solar noon fluctuates throughout the year and is only at 12 pm close to the eastern edge of a time zone. We have solar noon at noon in Spokane during half the year, whereas everyone else comes later.
bwaibel t1_j12vtem wrote
Right, so your point is that if solar noon was on the west side of a time zone it would be a disaster? If you were on the same time as your neighbors in Montana and southern Idaho then all hell would break loose?
CheckmateApostates t1_j131ii2 wrote
No, I was agreeing with your reply. A lot of these "solar noon is 12 pm" people don't seem to understand that, though. It's just weird how if I go to Missoula and gain an hour on the clock but only like 15 minutes of real time with respect to sunset, I'm not suddenly at risk of my heart exploding or any of those other nonsense things that anti-DST people argue.
factotvm OP t1_j1cm3nz wrote
This might interest you: https://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV2.png
As you can see, the west coast is pretty spot on. For now…
jrhoffa t1_j108qid wrote
Praise the Sun
AdventureBum t1_j11lw29 wrote
> If humans embrace the heavens, instead of thinking we control it, we will reconnect with nature.
You mean like not changing our clocks twice a year and sticking with a consistent, more natural timeframe?
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