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sommerniks t1_j99imxo wrote

Sometimes. If you have an HPV related cervical cancer and claim you're a virgin they're not really going to believe it.

Also, about the smoking: lying about it won't always work because they have noses and you're going to be wanting to take cigarette breaks during your hospital stay. If you quit smoking a while ago you're likely to mention it because quitting is a positive thing.

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Norklander t1_j99m0uh wrote

HPV can be transmitted via any skin to skin contact, so it’s not correct to assume high risk strain HPV related cancers are all related to sexual contact, however most are.

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sommerniks t1_j9a5n62 wrote

Close skin to skin contact of the genital area, it says, and the risk from hand-to-genital transmission is extremely low. How much of a virgin are you if you've had everything but penetration?

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Norklander t1_j9biiaf wrote

Skin to skin contact, including oral sex can transfer HPV virus. In some cultures/counties the definition of a virgin means no vaginal/penile penetrative sex, therefore it’s important in the context of cervical cancer not to equate absence of the above with zero risk of cervical cancer.

For example in Turkey when the Erdogan government rolled out HPV primary testing for cervical cancer screening (in 2014) the message got hijacked by right wing religious parties saying the infection was only sexually transmitted (mainly in the SE Turkey region), and that an HPV positive result meant the person had an STI. Result was uptake was low and cervical pre-cancers were missed as women were scared and men scared of being stigmatised or accused as a result.

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sommerniks t1_j9bklup wrote

Yeah, I know and the strict Christians refused vaccination based on the virgin principle too.

But still the doctors I know would want some explanation about that virginity, and consider oral sex 'sexually active' for example.

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Norklander t1_j9blrk1 wrote

Yes it’s a tricky subject but the consensus among clinicians and epidemiologists is that HPV is not an STI and shouldn’t be treated as such, but it doesn’t stop people deliberately confusing it for their own ends which is unfortunate.

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