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LSeww t1_j5untbx wrote

Reply to comment by blp9 in What determines whether we can create a vaccine for an illness or not? by ShelfordPrefect

Most of them are I/II phases studies (dozens to low hundred participants), only two at phase III, of which one is terminated (no desirable effects) another is expected to end in 2023. A decent amount of them were not even completed in 2019. So no, nothing was tested on humans at the time they decided to use if for covid. "Tested" means completed phase 3.

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blp9 t1_j5uv2dz wrote

That is a much better point than "it was never tested on humans".

Is your position that the Pfizer and Moderna Phase 3 trials were flawed in some way and therefore don't count?

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LSeww t1_j5uw7zb wrote

The point is: they chose a technology never (successfully) tested on humans for a “warp speed” vaccine development. Of course their phase 3 trials don’t count.

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