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Mustbearobot t1_j71m6lf wrote

Reply to comment by The_Queef_Whisperer in Does anyone wonder where their tax dollars are going? by Nicktendo

Everyone needs to be on Hopkins to pay more in their agreement with the city. That is why our taxes are higher. We subsidize a huge non-profit that drains from this city.

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[deleted] t1_j71qxyp wrote

Hopkins is a massive provider of above-median-income paying jobs in the city. Baltimore would be more like Detroit without it

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Mustbearobot t1_j71zus0 wrote

Doesn’t matter. They are also a huge real state company that pours money back into their own coffers. My “above-median-Income paying job” also has to pay more property taxes because they won’t pay their share. Other companies like Under Armour pay taxes and so should they.

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DrainTheClock t1_j7280e3 wrote

largest private employer in the state. baltimore would be nothing without hopkins. you don’t know how real life works

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MotoSlashSix t1_j72oi8a wrote

The two are not mutually exclusive and employment taxes are not property taxes; Hopkins, as an institution, does pay above-median income jobs and they do not shoulder their share of the infrastructure resources they consume. I'd say maybe a third of my neighbors work for Hopkins at the Medical Campus about 4 blocks away. And yes, some of them do make good money. Those are the same people who can detail exactly how Hopkins consumes massive amounts of city resources through extensive real estate holdings while not contributing their share of that that tax base. It's true of most non-profits with large real-estate holdings. Having employees is not some get-out-of-Tax-free card.

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DrainTheClock t1_j733tvk wrote

you are correct, having employees is not a get out of tax card. however, being the premier medical institution on planet earth, certainly is. the revenue, legitimacy, and publicity that hopkins generates for baltimore is one of the few reasons this city hasn’t completely collapsed. reddits collective burning hatred for hopkins, and to an extent, big conglomerates like atlas restaurants is nothing more than NIMBY peacocking. without these necessary “evils” this city we all love would be inhabitable

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CaptainObvious110 t1_j73epsk wrote

To be fair, they aren't exactly broke and they have a large footprint in the city.

Both can take place and it would be fine for them.

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MotoSlashSix t1_j736wzx wrote

>having employees is not a get out of tax card. however, being the premier medical institution on planet earth, certainly is.

No, it's not.

And claiming that the baseline expectation that everyone pay their fair share is "burning hatred" is dishonest. Especially to me, considering I do live with Hopkins - and many of their employees - in MBY. So spare me that bullshit.

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DrainTheClock t1_j73fu97 wrote

hopkins pays its fair share 10 fold in other ways. perhaps your animosity is better directed towards the actual money drains that plague this city, not the institutions that are a net positive. or continue to hate on big businesses. that goes well. pandora and the likes will be laughing at you on their way out to NYC

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MotoSlashSix t1_j78rmcm wrote

If you read this as “animosity” and “burning hatred” you’re either too dumb or too dishonest for this conversation.

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S-Kunst t1_j73s6eo wrote

OK that absolves them of physically taking over much of the east side of the city, with an interest in taking over more, paying no taxes, being a large slumlord, killing off most possibility of development in the east side as no one wants to invest only to have them take over.

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CrazyPerUsual t1_j723lul wrote

Not just a Hopkins issue. IIRC Baltimore City is "subsidizing" the costs of County water (City provides the county with water and they do NOT pay what we pay).

Understaffing, issues with getting materials, vendors who don't meet promised performance, inability to hire certain vendors because our streets and alleyways are so narrow (we can't just have any garbage or recycling collection b/c of this). It's a confluence of issues.

Does it suck? Yes. Do I as a resident feel I could probably budget better? Maybe. Do I want to go through the City budget line by line to figure out what gets the money and what doesn't? Nope. I don't have time for that. I vote for people that I hope will do as indicated/promised.

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Mustbearobot t1_j723xtx wrote

What’s this ridiculous deal with water?

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BmoreInterested t1_j72aga4 wrote

The deal was established in 1972 and hasn't been updated since. I'm sure it made sense then when the county population was 240K less and far fewer communities were then serviced by the water/sewer system. It's time to revamp the deal though... which seems like it may be starting soon: https://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/county-news/2023/01/31/baltimore-county-and-baltimore-city-leaders-announce-landmark-legislation-to-create-regional-water-governance-task-force

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CaptainObvious110 t1_j73e4j9 wrote

Ok make the county residents pay for their share of the water. We know what the problem is clearly so it's a matter of actually doing something about it

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