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DONNIENARC0 t1_jeekvby wrote

Reply to comment by sit_down_man in Baltimore Safe Streets sites ‘clearly’ reduce homicides, shootings, Johns Hopkins evaluation finds by sit_down_man

I'd honestly be skeptical any singular program or policy could reduce gun violence in any major city by over 20%. If it's truly that effective it should be a nationwide model, especially considering the relatively low cost. 20% is a pretty staggering number for something like this.

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YoYoMoMa t1_jeem3ti wrote

Skepticism is healthy, but I think at the minimum this means we should fund them a ton more. They are so cheap compared to cops.

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DONNIENARC0 t1_jeem7yo wrote

Agreed, expand it and see if you can maintain the results. Other cities should be chomping at the bit to emulate this, too, I'd think.

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sit_down_man OP t1_jeela88 wrote

Are you implying Hopkins researchers fudged the numbers? If anything, my gut instinct would be that any study affiliated with Hopkins would be biased in the opposite direction so I’m not sure I agree with that.

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z3mcs t1_jeeqs4y wrote

Saw this in another comment thread the other day:

>People are not rational and they don't trust experts.

We probably all do it, but it's interesting to see where people go "trust the experts here" vs questioning things.

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[deleted] t1_jeer5lh wrote

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z3mcs t1_jeeuxz0 wrote

Hey, I agree with researching things. I just think it's kind of funny when it was like "Why are people trippin because some company wants to dump some waste in Baltimore? Don't be irrational, trust the experts!" And then now the tenor will be ....ehhh, not so fast, lets research.

Like I said in my initial post, we all do it, and I'm not pointing to you or saying you made that original post that got upvoted, cause you didn't, I'm just saying we all have those Ice Cube "first I was like....then I was like" moments, like so.

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DONNIENARC0 t1_jeelsnj wrote

Not really, moreso that there may be some external factors that may have been overlooked

I hope that isn't the case, anyone who dislikes cheap and wildly effective violence reduction strategies would be insane.

A number like 20% on something like this is just pretty hard to digest.

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todareistobmore t1_jegk2sq wrote

> If it's truly that effective it should be a nationwide model

I don't think this follows at all. Whether/how well it would work outside of dense urban neighborhoods seems to be a totally separate (and possibly more difficult) question than whether/how well it works here.

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