Karmachanix t1_j16mh12 wrote
WJZ is reporting that a carjacked woman was raped by a juvenile, and that people are being forced into their trunks. Not sure why The Banner left these details out of their reporting. WJZ link: https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/baltimore-police-fbi-to-provide-update-on-rideshare-carjackings-robberies-wjz-cbs-harrison/
TheSpektrModule t1_j171y7v wrote
And yet the state legislature wants to make it harder to charge juveniles as adults.
bmore t1_j17a3zl wrote
Yes, your sentence explains why, as they are not in fact adults.
Edit: if you downvote this, you don't believe in science/evidence and support systems that make youth offenders more likely to commit future crimes; congrats on being a dumbass that supports creating exactly more of what you're mad about.
The_Waxies_Dargle t1_j1aix2j wrote
Your solution? Let's say they catch this 15 year old who methodically planned out and forcibly raped a woman. Are you going to therapize this behavior away?
This isn't shoplifting, or a fight. Or even armed robbery. Or even battery. It's violent rape by a stronger male of a vulnerable woman. This kind of thing doesn't just ruin the life of the woman. This trauma will infect those around her, and it will get passed down in one form or another to future generations.
The justice system isn't trying to fix this person, it's trying to dissuade the rapist's classmate or neighbor from doing the same.
None of the guardrails that are supposed to keep this individual from doing this worked up to this point. But suddenly this person is going to respond to tough love from a state appointed counselor?
pringlesbones t1_j1cxj1i wrote
Being tried as a juvenile doesn't have to mean treating it like a lesser crime, like he committed petty theft instead of rape. It can simply be keeping in mind that the criminal has a better chance of being rehabilitated. He'd still lose many of the freedoms that his peers can enjoy, and that would continue well into his adulthood. The problem is that it's easier (and more profitable for some) to throw someone in jail/basically let them completely go than have dedicated case workers to keep tabs, because our social infrastructure is shit.
TheSpektrModule t1_j1siylg wrote
> Being tried as a juvenile doesn't have to mean treating it like a lesser crime, like he committed petty theft instead of rape.
Yes it does. Everyone knows that the juvenile system is a joke and hands out meaningless non-punishments.
> the criminal has a better chance of being rehabilitated.
Ha! Right, and I've got some prime swamp land in Florida to sell you.
bmore t1_j1bim99 wrote
Yes, statistically they are less likely to re-offend if they are handled in the juvenile system. Longer sentences and even the death penalty do not dissuade violent crime, in fact they're correlated with greater violent crime. In the time you wrote this lengthy comment, you could have read a literature review on this subject.
Pakaru t1_j19eq77 wrote
This Reddit is full of dumbasses that don’t realize you can’t incarcerate your way out of what is happening.
Especially considering how big the BPD and its budget are already.
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