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rectalhorror t1_j4rszb6 wrote

Stripmalls are deader than dead. If you use DC's The Wharf as a template, luxury residential, hotel, and boutique retail/eateries work. It helps if you have a concert venue. Not really a fan myself because the eateries are overpriced trash, but the tourists seem to like it and the place is always packed. In the case of Harborplace, a decent food hall with lots of local options would attract local dollars.

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moderndukes t1_j4rwlgc wrote

The Wharf is also all private property including the streets and pedestrian streets off Maine Ave, which can cause issues sometimes…

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Nespot-despot t1_j4t2n2g wrote

The Wharf also has not-crazy pricing on their underground parking. The parking fees around Inner Harbor are bananas.

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DfcukinLite t1_j4tfxx6 wrote

It’s 35 dollars to park at the wharf and that’s the low end

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VirginBarryGaming t1_j4tk1km wrote

For real I’ll find baltimore parking $5 an hour, it was $15 an hour at the place I parked in the wharf

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DfcukinLite t1_j4tkia6 wrote

Well you let the people know your secret spot, parking panda lol

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VirginBarryGaming t1_j4tl0kt wrote

Lol I may be remembering the rate wrong. I was there for 3/4 hours and spent $45 on parking. Im just saying DC parking is without a doubt more expensive than Bmore parking

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BatteredWalrus t1_j4v2zmt wrote

$45 is on the weekends or concert days

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VirginBarryGaming t1_j4v50c4 wrote

Makes sense as I went to a concert, my only time being to the wharf though so only experience I can base off of

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gothaggis t1_j4x2u4j wrote

I park for free a couple of blocks away from The Wharf...using street parking after 6pm ;) (shows at the anthem are the only reason I go there)

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[deleted] t1_j4unfxp wrote

You’re absolutely correct. I’ve been down to the wharf several times and the parking is always more expensive than when I’ve needed to park at the harbour.

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BatteredWalrus t1_j4v2wo7 wrote

$38 for 8 hours during the week. $45 on weekends. I work there every day

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DfcukinLite t1_j4v4bwn wrote

I work at my company office there too. It’s $35 at the garage by the Pendry

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BmoreBr0 t1_j4wz0bg wrote

But the Wharf has decent public transit access and you can walk to and from it and actually feel safe.

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DfcukinLite t1_j4x2jzm wrote

The DC subreddit would like a word. The closest metro stops to the wharf are SW waterfront and L’enfant

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BmoreBr0 t1_j55pkr2 wrote

I can fit you in right after the ribbon cutting ceremony for Baltimore's comprehensive multimodal transit network with multiple rapid rail lines.

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[deleted] t1_j4und6t wrote

You’ve never parked at the Wharf, then? I easily paid more there than I have in Baltimore parking at the harbour. I often paid $15 or less. Use an app, don’t rely on the prices on the spot once you get down there.

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rickyx2001 t1_j4wok6t wrote

I parked at The DC Wharf underground garage once last year for around 4 hours and had to pay $45. I will not be parking there again.

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imani_TqiynAZU t1_j4ss8x5 wrote

I think you mean "enclosed" malls. Strip malls have Walmart and Costco stores and are doing fine across America.

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jacobi123 t1_j4u2kdx wrote

Such a weird change to see in my life time. It's county stuff, but to see both Owings Mills Mall and Westview Malls change to these strip malls with a handful of anchor stores has been interesting. And I see this a lot when a travel.

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imani_TqiynAZU t1_j4wnpk0 wrote

I agree with you, sir. Even Columbia Mall seems to be slowly transitioning into a strip mall. As someone who grew up in the old-school enclosed malls, it is kind of sad that they are obsolete.

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Xanny t1_j4s2gft wrote

We already have Lexington Market like 3 mintues away as a food hall though. And federal hill and fells point have dozens of restaraunts. I don't feel like there is room for the inner harbor to be a foodie destination.

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jdl12358 t1_j4s8g3h wrote

The people who go to Harborplace are not the same people who would go to those areas with the sorta exception of Fells Point. Residents of Downtown and UMMC workers are the vast majority of Lexington Market patrons. Residents of South Baltimore (or somewhere in the city/metro area) are the vast majority of Fed Hill restaurant patrons. Fells definitely caters to a tourist population to some degree, but given it's mostly bars and live music, it's not catering to families or bigger tourist groups in the same way. Yeah HP is dead but the actual Inner Harbor does still attract tourists and there are definitely days in the Spring/Summer when it is way more crowded than it should be when you consider Harborplace is basically nonexistent.

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engin__r t1_j4sdxt5 wrote

It would be nice to have more local restaurants in the inner harbor. I’d rather see them get the business than Shake Shack or Chik-Fil-A.

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rpd9803 t1_j4sf7mx wrote

Oh boy, Lexington Market

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Apronbootsface t1_j4tg1n5 wrote

It’s been redone

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rpd9803 t1_j4tg51f wrote

A fair point

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Apronbootsface t1_j4tgazt wrote

Stopped in before Christmas, they did a good job with it. Still has a ways to go

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rpd9803 t1_j4tge2n wrote

Good to know, I have to get down there

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dainty-defication t1_j4vjfsl wrote

Not easy to walk to either of those from the aquarium. It can be done but most of the tourist crowd isn’t going to go that far especially with kids and strollers

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jabbadarth t1_j4tgrt0 wrote

You basically just described harbor east which is like 3 blocks away.

Personally I think it needs to bring local businesses in either as permanent fixtures or as a rotating showcase. Make it something locals and tourists can enjoy.

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wolfbear t1_j4t983m wrote

it’s the s’mores trailer that really does it for me

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