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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jebysra wrote

Reply to comment by TunaLaguna in Do you skip or skim when reading fiction? by GraniteGeekNH

The question. They read it because they enjoy it. How they choose to enjoy it is irrelevant. Let me give you a comparison. I draw. When I'm drawing a character, I'll start with JUST the human form in whatever position I'm drawing it in. Then, layer by layer, I add everything else. But if someone skipped drawing the form first, I wouldn't say, "Why even draw at all, then?" Just because someone is doing something differently than you doesn't make it a waste of time. Or, if somebody gets up in the middle of a movie to use the restroom or grab a snack, is there no point in finishing the movie? "Why even watch the movie, then?"

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TunaLaguna t1_jec023i wrote

omg what a ridiculous false equivalency lmao

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jec0b9y wrote

No, it's not. People are allowed to enjoy things in a way that you don't enjoy them. That's my point. Are you competing in some kind of "out pretentious the other guy" contest?

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TunaLaguna t1_jec0t9t wrote

I most certainly am not haha

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jec1i7m wrote

That's too bad. You'd clean up. There are more ways than one to enjoy absolutely everything. There is more than one way to draw a picture. There is more than one way to enjoy a movie. There is more than one way to enjoy a book. It's not a waste of time to do something that they enjoy just because you wouldn't enjoy it that way. To ask, "Why even read?" Is pretentious and absurd.

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Lord_Skellig t1_jecad66 wrote

Well you're allowed to, sure, but it seems weird.

In the same way that if someone was watching a film for the first time and decided to fast-forward through a dialogue-heavy scene because they don't like slow scenes it would be considered very strange.

Sure you can do that. But you're definitely getting an incomplete, and most would say lesser, version of the film. Each scene has been put there for a reason, and that reason might not become clear until later on.

I don't think it is good thing to only value the "best" bits of any piece of media, since that misses out on a huge amount of context that would enrich the experience as a whole.

But as I say, it's your life, do as you wish.

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alolanalice10 t1_jegx0ug wrote

I actually do have a friend who fast-forwards through scenes lmao. I don’t like to watch anything new with her because it’s incomprehensible to me

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jee6j6i wrote

It can't be a "lesser" version when the comment was "Why read at all?" They're definitely getting more than the nothing that was suggested. And it's not good or bad to value any part of these made-up, nonexistent stories and fake people. You could never pick up any piece of fiction, and it wouldn't matter. Beyond the enjoyment that you get out of them, they are utterly worthless. So let people do what they want. This thread is gatekeeping bullshit, and this sub is pretentious as fuck.

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TunaLaguna t1_jeerwnb wrote

Dude give it up. It's over.

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jees887 wrote

I could say the same to you. Why do you people keep responding while acting like anyone doing the same has some kind of problem? Are you just obsessed with getting the last word? At least I'm actually making a point. You can't even manage legitimate conversation or discourse. So go if you want to go. I'm perfectly content doing as I am to irritate you.

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TunaLaguna t1_jeeym51 wrote

You're not irritating me half as much as you're just embarrassing yourself lmao

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jeezv0m wrote

Embarrassing? I'm not embarrassed by anonymous conversations on the internet. This has no impact on my actual life. It's just a time killer between tasks, responsibilities, and activities. As I told somebody else in this thread, made-up internet points mean absolutely nothing to me. I already left this sub, so a ban wouldn't impact me at all, and even if I hadn't, it's one sub out of countless subs that I can join. Shit, I could be banned from all of reddit, and I would just find a different way to kill some time. This is just a good time, lmao. I'm having fun. That's why most of us engage in leisure activities.

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TunaLaguna t1_jef0inm wrote

You're working pretty hard to make sure everyone knows that this means nothing to you, and you're not bothered, yet you've been at it for 17 hours now. I am done with this conversation. If you can't tell by the downvotes, it would seem you're wasting your time. Buh-bye!

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jef1l0d wrote

Whatever you say, buddy. I like to debate. It's fun. That doesn't mean that it has a heavy impact on me, lmao. But the fun thing about you being a stranger on the internet is that you can think whatever you want about me and it doesn't have any potential to change anything in my life. But sure. Keep talking about the made-up internet points in your pretentious echo chamber.

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TunaLaguna t1_jef3by8 wrote

Yes I am definitely the pretentious one here lol

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Ok-Enthusiasm-8052 t1_jeg42t6 wrote

This is seriously the most bizarre thread. I've never seen people so furious about something that affects literally no one.

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Lord_Skellig t1_jegojnc wrote

There is value in things beyond surface level enjoyment. Many experiences, even apparently boring, uncomfortable, and even painful ones can bring important lessons. I don't think it is a healthy approach for a person to try to strip all but the most "enjoyable" or comfortable elements out of their life, and this applies also to reading books.

It's not going to kill you to spend an extra couple of days reading the slow bits. But it might bring a lot of value.

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