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lingonn t1_jav77rz wrote

Reply to comment by davowankenobi in Banning Words Won’t Make the World More Just - The Atlantic by vaikrunta

Oh right the point was that Winston was wrong and newspeak and twisting the truth was actually good.

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davowankenobi t1_jav98gh wrote

Lol ok the point was about fascism, surveillance, and oppression. Asking people to use language that respects others is neither of those things

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Meteorologie t1_javdyuq wrote

Merely asking people to use specific language created by distant, unknown, and unaccountable figures is not fascism, but I am not sure what compelling them to use it by threats of social or economic punishment is.

The consequences are key.

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davowankenobi t1_javr7px wrote

distant, unknown, and unaccountable figures? You mean, women, queer people, disabled people, who ask you to not use a word like the R word or hysterical to describe a woman? Which then got picked up by style guides to inform writing and reporting?

This sounds like you believe in the fallacy of cancel culture

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Meteorologie t1_javwv9h wrote

Please don’t suggest that women, LGBT, or disabled people form distinct monolithic groups with shared and internally consistent views on what language is acceptable and not acceptable - that is a dehumanising concept that denies their individuality.

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