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Seevalk t1_jdgocz9 wrote

I don't think it's not so much toxic book fans as opposed to you expecting a lot of maturity from TikTok. Get off TikTok, your life will be all the better for it.

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Superb-Draft t1_jdgt7f8 wrote

Exactly what is the point of this post. "I was seeking validation on TikTok and didn't get it, so I came to Reddit for sympathy instead"

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sunforthemoon OP t1_jdh4tlb wrote

I didn’t seek validation thanks! I knew exactly that my opinion probably wasn’t going to be popular as it’s a book with a somewhat cult following, and after the hate I got which was extremely personal I wondered if anyone else had experienced this! I don’t need sympathy, I’m a big girl. However it just struck me as abnormal as I’ve never experienced a tirade of negative opinions which were all extremely personal and not well reasoned or respectful.

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nyet-marionetka t1_jdh7pfj wrote

That kind of stuff happens on platforms like TikTok, tumblr, and Twitter, where a group forms a silo and sic the group on people they don’t like, like angry chickens pecking an injured chicken to death. It happens over any topic with enough fans. Probably more with TV shows because the audiences are bigger.

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Superb-Draft t1_jdh9e3t wrote

It happens on Reddit too, in fact I would say here it is worse because the hivemind downvotes any dissenting opinion so it can't even be seen. At least on other places you have to actually type out a response.

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LooseDoctor t1_jdhz1c1 wrote

Agreed, it’s happened to me on Reddit! It made me not want to participate in book discussions at all on here. Anyone that thinks Reddit is somehow a better version of social media just cause it’s their favorite needs to do some introspection.

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ComicsNBigBooks t1_jdhzx2q wrote

Reddit is the least awful, but it is by no means a place for regular civil discourse haha, so I agree there.

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Alaira314 t1_jdipp9l wrote

The other platforms make dissent visible. Even if 30 people are screaming at me in the tumblr notes, I can see that 20 people clicked the little heart to like my post. But on reddit, I'm sitting at a -10 and I don't know if that's because ten people disagree with me or because 30 people disagree and 20 people agree. The little controversial dagger can be helpful with this, but only if the values are very close.

Add in the downvoting issue, and it's very easy to bury people with the feedback threat of "shut your mouth if you don't want to wind up muted" which...is what downvotes are. Subreddit karma is used in the crowd control official mod tool to auto-collapse your posts and send them to the bottom of the thread to die. A new user who comes to a subreddit and, say, wants to discuss ableism in RPGs(because they are themselves disabled and are interested in the subject) only to be met with heavy downvotes because reddit hates the word ableism is going to just walk away from that subreddit. And so views continue uncontested.

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OneGoodRib t1_jdk6ryu wrote

It's funny if you point out that dissenting opinions get downvoted, and then you get downvoted for pointing it out.

Don't ever tell r/movies that they overwhelmingly hate anything aimed at females of any age with like 3 exceptions.

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pornplz22526 t1_jdilx40 wrote

Reddit is still the better of the social platforms for reasonable discussion, but it gets worse with every platform that bans porn...

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nyet-marionetka t1_jdhdnuc wrote

No, you don’t get it on reddit. That could happen from cross-subreddit posting if someone points a community in your direction, but the admins crack down on that. A bunch of individual people stumbling on your comment and disagreeing with you isn’t the same as a person sending their followers to stalk you online, trash talk you in your comments, and post their own stuff targeted at you. Reddit is generally a pretty civil place by comparison to tiktok and tumblr.

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Alaira314 t1_jdiyi9r wrote

Outside websites(discord, etc) are used to coordinate brigading now, since the admin crackdowns.

I have also received sustained harassment over time from comments made on reddit. It's happened twice. I forget what I did to offend the one time, but the other was that I said someone should consider adding a content warning to their post because of something very unpleasant dropped out of nowhere near the end of it. Both times they followed me to other subs and would reply to my posts there, with stuff that was clearly off but not rule breaking. The reason I remember the one so well is that person was replying with the thing I'd said bothered me, no context just the words copy-pasted from their post. The reason I didn't block them was because it's not my first rodeo and I wanted to make sure it wasn't escalating without my knowledge(at the time the block tool only made their posts invisible to me, and allowed them to continue interacting with posts I'd made, so I wouldn't know if for example they doxed me).

I don't tiktok or twitter, but I've never had to deal with things like that on tumblr. 🤷‍♀️

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beameup19 t1_jdhbrcj wrote

Downvoting you for using “hive mind”

People are individuals regardless of which platforms they use. If you got a lot of down votes, it isn’t the fault of a “hive mind” lol you just likely have shit takes and shit opinions

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iwasjusttwittering t1_jdhey5n wrote

Echo chambers: exist.

The Reddit format also favors hype and content with quick turnaround. (I'm comparing it to classic forums where you can have long discussions that last more than a few hours/days but weeks/months.)

In my experience (years in places such as /r/mechanicalkeyboards), it's very easy to get downvoted for posting only factual information (yes, not being snarky either), not to mention skepticism wrt latest hypetrain.

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OneGoodRib t1_jdk6n6d wrote

All my exposure to tiktok is youtube videos that are compilations of funny animal tiktoks and the handful of stuff that was made by popular viners when tiktok first opened (when it was still musica.ly).

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ComicsNBigBooks t1_jdhzo6p wrote

I mean, why not both? But yes, my life is definitely better since deleting the TikTok app.

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