Dune - book & movie

Submitted by fish-n-chips99 t3_z6ioly in books

At the outset, I am not sure whether this belongs in the r/books or r/movies. Having finished dune recently, I just want a space to share my thoughts. So here I go - I saw the movie before reading the book and I absolutely loved it! So i decided to read the book, honestly because I wanted to live in the Dune world for a bit longer.

The thanksgiving weekend came at a perfect time. I was on a road trip and I used all my driving time to finish the audiobook(Also, Dune audiobook is a real piece of work with alot of production value). The movie has done a great justice to the first book. The way they set the scene up, adding depth to most characters, even the dialogues were amazing. My fav scenes were the spice collection and the majestic sandworm, just wow!

I would say some aspects had greater gravitas in the book- the desperation for water on Arakis. The book took its sweet time to explain the stillsuits, all the fremen ways to save every drop of water. Brilliantly written!

Overall, I am so excited to start Messiah. I can only imagine it gets better as Paul learns the fremen ways!

P.s - to all who have read all the dune books and seen the movie, do Paul's dreams have any significance to the story? I had so many questions about the dreams show in the movie, so i thought the book would answer them-😆 (im not worried about spoilers so please go ahead)

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crixx93 t1_iy1oz5h wrote

The dreams in the movie is his prescience awakening. He is full control of the power in Dune Messiah

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lydiardbell t1_iy210pw wrote

Yes. I don't know how one could finish Dune and not know this, since it's basically stated outright when Paul and Chani have the same conversation he dreamt about earlier in the book.

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fish-n-chips99 OP t1_iy6nj9j wrote

Well, I don't recall Paul and chani having a conversation in the first book, unless you are talking about the dune series in totality.

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lydiardbell t1_iy6p22v wrote

Unless I'm misremembering Chani's name (I am talking about the Fremen girl to whom Jessica says "history will remember us as wives), this definitely happens in the first book - multiple times, but I'm thinking of a particular time when she asks what it was like coming from a planet with so much water.

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HidingInSaccades t1_iy1sq1y wrote

Read the whole series. You can do it. Taken as a whole, the Dune epoch is a staggering body of work. I found the first book was so satisfying after the whole series.

It’s an intellectual exercise to be certain. But what else do you have to live for?

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NostalgicNeonate t1_iy22lz2 wrote

I finished all the original books by Frank Herbert earlier this year, but I've been wondering if I should give any of the books that came after his death a try. Anyone here have thoughts on that?

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hmmwhatsoverhere t1_iy24eeq wrote

The Brian Herbert novels are badly written cashgrabs that read like fanfics by someone who missed every important point of the original series. Avoid them.

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porkchopsmallcat t1_iy1tnh2 wrote

I really hope they let Denis Villeneuve make a Messiah movie like he says he wants to. it really wraps up a lot of the themes of Dune nicely and arguably Dune and Messiah really should have just been one big book.

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fish-n-chips99 OP t1_iy6nocw wrote

Yes ofcourse, I can't wait for the next movie. I believe its scheduled for release in nov 2023

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GrudaAplam t1_iy2e2is wrote

Don't stop there, there's an earlier movie, too.

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KalWilton t1_iy2mv0w wrote

I read the book before I saw the old movie, I have never been more disappointed in a movie. The Fremen got done so dirty in that movie, Paul comes in and teaches them how to free themselves in typical white saviour nonsense. In the book the Fremen are warriors that Paul manipulates and uses as a weapon to fulfil the golden path.

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GrudaAplam t1_iy2q3qp wrote

Sure, but that's no reason not to watch it.

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KalWilton t1_iy2ro5r wrote

Sure, if you are a sane rational person, but if you are a pedantic nutter like me you will rage at the screen for years about it.

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fish-n-chips99 OP t1_iy6nxie wrote

I definitely want to watch the first version of the movie too. Its amazing to visualize the different interpretation of the same book.

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GrudaAplam t1_iy6p7dj wrote

Frank Herbert actually worked as a consultant on that movie.

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Yaascn t1_iy41w0y wrote

The Brian Herbert books are Dune devoid of the life Frank breathed into them. That being said, most/all of them were based off notes/outlines Frank left behind so it was nice to know how the story ended

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froop t1_iy518pk wrote

I just read the first two books and I'm working through Children. Honestly, I'm not that impressed. Dune was a pretty paper thin story, and the plotting of the various characters isn't very deep. The book expends a lot of words to say the characters are brilliant tacticians, but their plans aren't very sophisticated and victory usually comes from the enemy fucking up. Dr. Yueh is supposed to be an incorruptible graduate of the Imperial school of unbreakable conditioning, but all it takes to corrupt him is torturing his wife. The Atredes are brought down not by careful plotting, but by underestimating how much money the harkonens were willing to spend to destroy them.

Dune Messiah has no plot that I can tell. Nothing happens, nobody's scheming achieves anything. Nothing is accomplished, then everyone dies.

The books have been enjoyable, but I haven't found them satisfying and I probably won't continue past Children.

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fish-n-chips99 OP t1_iy6oj7z wrote

I do see your point and because I listened to the audiobooks, I could let my mind wander around in some parts and then get back to the interesting bits as it comes along. So in that case, my experience with dune was more enjoyable and a bit biased.

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kkkilla t1_iy6him8 wrote

Enjoy the ride! I am currently on book 5 out of the original 6 and feel the story gets better and better as I dive deeper into this universe that Frank Herbert so excellently crafted for us.

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