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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9jx5wp wrote

Do you though? Because your solution to me has been well durr durr why don't you just threaten to go to RCN to get a cheaper rate with Comcast, works everytime. Except I can't

We are never getting a public option and based on your unwillingness to support the smaller provider you're probably gonna lose that too.

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ApolloSimba t1_j9jzu0l wrote

I have tried RCN. It was terrible on a scale that I have never experienced with Comcast. You keep ignoring me saying that.

Your premise erroneously limits the options available. I gave you another option but since it is not 'realistic' you disregarded it. (FYI there are at least 3 municipally owned and operated ISP's in MA alone and hundreds in the US. It is realistic.)

It's not that I am unwilling to support a smaller provider. It's that I see the smaller provider as no different than the larger one. It's all symptomatic of the same problem.

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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9k047w wrote

It's not just unrealistic. It's non existent.

It's okay to say hey I'm a selfish asshole who doesn't care that they are supporting the greater of two evils. You don't have to make a lengthy diatribe about why you are justified

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ApolloSimba t1_j9k0cqw wrote

As I said before, it literally exists in the commonwealth. It is realistic, it literally exists. I don't think you're a selfish asshole; you're misinformed.

Concord seems to be the closest I can find to the greater boston area with it.

https://concordma.gov/481/Service-Plans-Pricing

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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9k0gbd wrote

No I think you're the selfish asshole for supporting Comcast.

Look I've been involved in bringing a communal internet to a town that was eventually tanked because the big isp payed the board members in contract jobs. You try it.

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ApolloSimba t1_j9k0kj5 wrote

I'm appreciate you trying that!

I am not trying that because I don't see it as a way individual time and effort can provide value to my community.

I do direct action by giving my time to youth programs in somerville/cambridge. Praxis has many forms.

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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9k15sr wrote

Like supporting the lesser of two evils.

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ApolloSimba t1_j9k38hs wrote

The only moral option is to not support evil. But alas I need internet to work and I need to work to eat.

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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9k3nod wrote

People vote for the lesser of two evils all the time. That's why Biden won for instance. You are just being obtuse and selfish in this particular circumstance

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ApolloSimba t1_j9k42sx wrote

Correct but that was not a moral decision. The moral decision there is to abstain or to write in.

But we live in a FPTP voting system which essentially only allows two viable candidates. So someone can choose to make the moral decision (abstain or write in) or the make a non-moral decision that's forced upon them because of a system they did not choose. Sound similar?

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Organic_Experience69 t1_j9kg29h wrote

You're assuming morality is binary when it is not.

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ApolloSimba t1_j9kmvly wrote

No, I am not. But in this case, I can confidently say supporting evil of any sort (even if it is a lesser evil) is not a moral choice.

Is supporting the lesser of two evils an ethical choice - probs

Is supporting the lesser of two evils a practical choice. - Oh yah.

Is supporting the lesser of two evils a moral choice - supporting evil by definition is not moral.

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