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Pinwurm t1_ja7zbmm wrote

NYC did their rollout pretty quickly and efficiently… years ago. How are we 3 years over projections and a quarter billion over?

MA government has got to be the one of the least efficiently run cesspools in the country. It cannot complete any project on time, within specs, or within budget. The new bullshit CCRC trains, the bullshit Sumner Tunnel closures, this bullshit. Three years over and a quarter billion down the drain.

I mean - the ONLY time any work was done was the Orange Line closure and that’s cause Washington was threatening to Federalize the agency. Which they should have.

By the time this tech is finally rolled out, it’ll be 6 years overdue, treated as a ‘victory’, and some new technology would’ve already already been invented.

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ahecht t1_ja83pgd wrote

> NYC did their rollout pretty quickly and efficiently… years ago. How are we 3 years over projections and a quarter billion over?

Part of the problem is that we're using the same company NYC did and they had to wait for the NYC rollout to finish in 2021 before they even started working on Massachusetts.

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reaper527 t1_ja80l1w wrote

> How are we 3 years over projections and a quarter billion over?

are we actually over by more than that?

the article makes it sound like we're over the current budget by $200m, which was already raised by 200m when the original budget of $723m was increased to $935m.

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disco_t0ast t1_ja8515f wrote

>How are we 3 years over projections and a quarter billion over?

Because anything involving massdot is incapable of being completed on time or on budget. The levels of nepotism, corruption, and incompetence are astounding.

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Pinwurm t1_ja87n5y wrote

It's wild. Between MassDOT and MBTA, the city grinds to a halt.

There are a few decent Mass Government agencies. I'm usually pretty impressed with Massport. Logan Express buses operate well, the parks they service (like Bremen Street Park) are very beautifully maintained. Plus Logan's renovations went really well - and the Logan renovations went off without a problem. It's a much smaller agency and have a lot of Federal oversight (cause, ya know, planes). But it's still proof that a State agency can be good with with the right management structure and fuckin' accountability.

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drtywater t1_ja9q3nl wrote

Massport has very in demand assets and very good revenue stream. FWIW Massport has its own scandal such as the State Police barracks OT scandal also touched on the Massport Troop.

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disco_t0ast t1_ja8ws5b wrote

If you consider the FTA's recent involvement, the T has had federal oversight for some time as well. I can't find the source now but i read a few times that Poftak and Baker went back a ways - so no matter how bad Stevie fucked up the T, he was never getting fired. That's why it's continued to decline. It's no coincidence he gtfo as soon as Maura was taking over.

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thebruns t1_jaap00w wrote

> NYC did their rollout pretty quickly and efficiently… years ago.

No they didnt. The OMNY program is massively delayed.

>The MTA announced that the MTA's new "tap and go" ticket system, One Metro New York (OMNY) will not come to the Metro-North Railroad until 2025, delayed from the original projected 2021 completion.

https://patch.com/new-york/yorktown-somers/metro-north-not-expected-get-omny-pay-until-2025-mta

>Originally slated for 2021, the AirTrain's OMNY rollout will now happen "sometime in 2024," according to a recent tweet from the airport.

https://patch.com/new-york/queens/omnys-delayed-rollout-jfk-airtrain-must-be-sped-lawmakers-say

>An MTA spokesperson merely said there was “no update” on the agency’s plans for the back-door boarding pilot, which was unceremoniously axed in 2022. At the time, Lieber said he was trying to find “the right time” to start the pilot, which was announced in 2021 and then sat on the shelf for months.

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2023/02/21/mtas-all-door-boarding-pilot-still-nixed-for-some-reason/

Please dont spread misinformation.

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Ksevio t1_jab7zvs wrote

But you could board trains and busses in NYC and pay with your phone last year

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thebruns t1_jab8cej wrote

Subway trains, yes. Not commuter rail, ferries, Airtrain, PATH or Rosevelt Island tram. The whole system was supposed to be done by now.

And rear-door boarding on buses is now 2+ years late

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CommonNotCommons t1_jabrjaw wrote

>MA government has got to be the one of the least efficiently run cesspools in the country.

Massachusetts has just about the best-run, most effective government in the country. Certain parts of our government really suck, like the MBTA. But that’s also a consequence of how we structured our institutions, and how we fund them.

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