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Doortofreeside t1_jeeinog wrote

I never knew that was a superfund site. Was that on both sides of the dam?

Having kayaked the length of the malden river that doesn't surprise me at all

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Academic_Guava_4190 t1_jef02r3 wrote

The land Encore and Gateway Mall is built on was a Monsanto Chemical plant for decades.

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nomoreroger t1_jegy0yt wrote

The encore site went back into the 1800s from what I recall. I wasn’t a big fan of a casino so I read the environmental proposal. From what I recall, a hundred years ago, after the site was done with chemicals and had them in surplus they would just steam shovel them into the ground… all the goodies you would never want buried or near water. It is worth a read.

When I was done… I just said.. yep, build a casino. That is the only business that can print money and cover the cost of dealing with that. The only other thing you could build there would be a Treasury building that prints actual money.

These are the special stripers they would catch.

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Blinky

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Academic_Guava_4190 t1_jeh2299 wrote

I believe you are correct. I haven’t lived in Everett in 20 years but growing up there between all the factories, Monsanto, and the tanks we knew we were fucked eight ways from Sunday.

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_AttilaTheNun_ OP t1_jeeivog wrote

Oh, don't know for sure it qualified as a legit superfund, that was me being dramatic, but I know it wasn't good and I thought that was part of the reason for letting encore develop, that they shouldered the burden of cleaning it up.

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CheruthCutestory t1_jees3bo wrote

You weren’t being dramatic. It wasn’t technically a superfund site but it was really bad for a long time.

Imagine other cities letting property that close to Boston lay fallow.

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BathAndBodyWrks t1_jef4fls wrote

I would like to point you to Buffalo and the numerous waterfront land that is full of toxins due to Bethlehem steel.

Same with Cleveland and other rust belt cities. I think Detroit is in there too

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CheruthCutestory t1_jefd63y wrote

Believe me I know. I used to live in Pittsburgh, which is better off than a lot of former rust belt cities. And did environmental law while there. That's why I said close to Boston not the water although that's the bigger attraction.

But I grew up in Everett and lived there now. I know some people who worked for Wynn during the cleanup. And that area was horrific.

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nhf1918 t1_jefye0b wrote

Are there any American cities that really do this well? When I compare Boston to a lot of us cities on the preservation of green spaces I feel like it’s not that bad. Charles used to be bad but seems to be in decent shape these days. When I compare Boston to providence waterfront - Boston is quite a bit nicer.

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Doortofreeside t1_jeej3s7 wrote

Ah OK, that's good at least

It was a few years ago but the water didn't seem too bad at all until you went up the malden river. So strange seeing a "river" that is completely stagnant and full of garbage

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Impressive_Judge8823 t1_jef9wnf wrote

If you watched the construction they had to bring in a shit load of equipment to do remediation work when they disturbed the soil.

Given the choice of a festering plot of toxins vs a casino that paid to remediate the site I’d think the casino was the better choice.

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