houligan27 t1_jeepc25 wrote
Reply to comment by sord_n_bored in SJC rules Mayor Wu had the authority to require municipal workers to get the COVID-19 vaccine - The Boston Globe by TouchDownBurrito
Since when are unions conservative?
downthewell62 t1_jef0xv8 wrote
Police Unions are notoriously conservative. Because police are notoriously conservative.
The police unions are not the same as unions in private companies
houligan27 t1_jef6kg4 wrote
Who said anything about Police unions? They're a small fraction of all unions. The comment connected unions, in this case the Boston Firefighters, to "conservative nonsense."
You can disagree with their stance on a vaccine mandate during the pandemic (and I do), but there's no need to misrepresent the situation of vilify them for fighting for their member's right to collectively bargain changes. There's quite a bit of irony in calling that conservative.
downthewell62 t1_jef9rs3 wrote
> Who said anything about Police unions? They're a small fraction of all unions.
This entire thread is about Police Unions. That's the point of the thread. So, everyone.
>but there's no need to misrepresent the situation of vilify them for fighting for their member's right to collectively bargain changes.
There weren't changes. There was nothing to bargain. And police Unions are the notorious villains of the country so, plenty of reasons to vilify them.
houligan27 t1_jefdc9n wrote
I'm not talking about vilifying police, Im talking about vilifying unions in general. Of which police make up a small percentage. This thread is about all municipal employees, not just police.
If you bothered to look into the situation more than just commenting on reddit you would understand that the lawsuit wasnt even about the vaccine. It was about whether or not the vaccine could be mandated by the employer without collectively bargaining the change. The irony is that it's far more conservative to enforce a policy like this without collectively bargaining it than it is liberal.
Ultimately, the Courts sided with Mayor Wu. Practically, it makes no difference because the mandate was never enforced due to a previous injunction and a new agreement was made between the two sides. But, police bad for all the updootz you want.
downthewell62 t1_jefgz5o wrote
> I'm not talking about vilifying police, Im talking about vilifying unions in general
Police unions (and other federal/state job unions) are radically different from private sector unions in almost all functions and forms. No one is vilifying unions in general. They're vilifying police unions, which are used almost exclusively to protect police abuses
crapador_dali t1_jefuz11 wrote
>Police unions (and other federal/state job unions) are radically
different from private sector unions in almost all functions and forms.
Sorry, but no.
downthewell62 t1_jeg0jyk wrote
crapador_dali t1_jeg3cs8 wrote
You're going to selectively pull from your own comment? You also said "and other federal/state job unions". As someone who is in one of those unions and has been in a private sector union I know from experience that they're not "radically different in almost all functions and forms".
Also, your proof that police unions are "radically different" are just two opinion pieces.
Swayz t1_jeevf57 wrote
They are not but if you dare to question big pharma than you are a literal Nazi to some people
downthewell62 t1_jef11s1 wrote
We all questioned it. As everyone should. Thankfully there were hundreds of peer reviewed papers and data that showed everything was fine.
mmmnnnthrow t1_jeerqj1 wrote
On this sub liberal means never going past Tremont St., championing condo developers as the heralds of progress, and looking down on people not thriving in the zero-sum corporate hellworld. So yeah, unions BAD if they represent a group we can slap a binary label on.
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