septagon t1_iu4ngom wrote on October 28, 2022 at 2:56 PM

Reply to comment by psychicsword in Police confiscate loaded gun from 7-year-old at Dorchester school by rabblebowser

This is ridiculous to the extreme. A proper gun safe is almost adult proof. What's being described here is precisely "beyond grossly negligent in the storing of their firearms".

psychicsword t1_iu4s6ze wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:28 PM

Lockpickinglawyer opened one of them up with a twig.

You can argue that this isn't a "proper gun safe" but the law doesn't require that people spend $1000 on a secured to the building vault with 3" steel walls and an attack vetted locking mechanism.

Many of the marketed as "secure" gun safes on amazon and in sporting goods stores are not going to keep an adult out and some are barely able to keep anyone out but are often viewed and marketed capable of doing that.

septagon t1_iu4u6te wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:42 PM

Proper being defined as something that would keep your 7 year old out, not what the Chinese listing on Amazon says. Any responsible parent and gun owner would agree. The problem is they're not either of those and in the end if that child gets hurt because of it it's fully their fault.

scolfin t1_iu56x61 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:06 PM

It's adult-proof if you're opening it properly, but not as secure as promised if you're getting creative in how to get it open. There's a Burn Notice quip about how a lot of very secure doors are in walls that you can punch through, but my reference is that I find it difficult to open a pill bottle my dog bit the cap off of this morning (why she likes chewing those caps I have no idea).