Submitted by Opposite-Treat3280 t3_znoa8s in boston
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Opposite-Treat3280 OP t1_j0i8s3v wrote
As god-emperor, it would only take me about a week. In real life though, it would take far more than half a millennium. A man can dream though!
f0rtytw0 t1_j0jwkui wrote
As god emperor your plans are not ambitious enough. Take a look at the Seoul subway map for some inspiration, which will be further expanded when the high speed subway (underground bullet trains) lines open.
General_Liu1937 t1_j0k5jjj wrote
Yes! Route 128 Terminal Boundary!!!
Markymarcouscous t1_j0icyiw wrote
Have your yellow line go under each terminal and stop at Logan so we can stop getting on the dumb bus and getting stuck in traffic.
Opposite-Treat3280 OP t1_j0idslq wrote
how the hell did i miss this, yes.
General_Liu1937 t1_j0k5lku wrote
And then terminate in Seaport or City Point
LemonBomp t1_j0lo56g wrote
just make the yellow line a loop at this point lol
in_finite_jest t1_j0ia2g5 wrote
Blue line to Lynn! You are indeed the god-emperor you claim to be; let me be part of your holy crusade to make this dream a reality, o lord!
Efficient_Art_1144 t1_j0j22j0 wrote
There needs to be a line from my house to the dispensary and it also makes a stop at Regina’s and then the grocery store for some yummy fresh fruit then maybe the converse store to get some comfy kicks and oh man I’m hungry again let’s go back to Regina’s and now shit my buzz is wearing off and
3720-To-One t1_j0ie4bk wrote
I see the red line is going for length while the green line is going for girth.
I think it also could use another outer ring.
Starts at forest hills, goes up and hits reservoir, Brighton center/oak square, then up around to alewife, oak grove, and wonderland.
Difficult-Ad3518 t1_j0icdxi wrote
What mode is the Pink Line? It seems to be trying to be a jack-of-all-trades, but I can't see how it would be adequate at more than one.
From Widett Circle to Blue Hill Ave, what you drew would be best as part of a regional rail system, or at least something compatible with the common rail network.
Then it has a peculiar subway in Mattapan.
From Broadway to South Station, it appears to share a right-of-way with a heavy rail rapid transit line (the Red Line).
From South Station to Aquarium, it does god-knows-what.
From Aquarium to Maverick, it appears to share a right-of-way with another heavy rail rapid transit line (the Blue Line)
Then it is routed along a route with curves that could only possibly be adequately served by LRT or bus service.
Opposite-Treat3280 OP t1_j0idqq3 wrote
itd be heavy rail aka red/blue line in this god-emperor scenario, all buried and all with brand new rails. depth would change depending on if it conflicts with other rails, like how its done in new york. in real life this would cost infinity money, but this is a dream.
Difficult-Ad3518 t1_j0iiiek wrote
I understand that this thought exercise in unconstrained by money and resources, but I'd think you should strive to propose something that's actually a worthwhile undertaking (even if completely unrealistic).
You'd be better off having the southern half of the Pink Line be DMU service (like the Rail Vision Alternative 4), EMU service (like the Rail Vision Alternative 5), or if you really want to go balls-to-the-wall EMU service through a North-South Rail Linke (like the Rail Vision Alternative 6). That service would be a much more worthwhile pursuit.
wittgensteins-boat t1_j0kxb35 wrote
Next project is a proposal on what might actually be built in the next 50 years, given State and Federal outlays likely to be available.
And include commuter and regional rail.North and South Station are still unconnected.
GLX had a billion Federal dollars, which did not go all that far.
LocarionStorm t1_j0im7sz wrote
You forgot to complete the Red Line circle - it'll go over the gigantic sea wall across the bay to keep back the melted glaciers.
Subject_Rhubarb4794 t1_j0ius9d wrote
the mass ave line 🤤 why not make the yellow line directly replace the 66 bus between Harvard and Nubian? seems like a more logical route given the existing significance of that bus line
nebirah t1_j0j4ck8 wrote
A friend lives in Worcester. He can take the commuter line to South Station, but what if he wants to get to Riverside which is a heck of a lot closer?
Create a belt that connects the different color lines with commuter lines.
hoorayquestionmark t1_j0j521l wrote
Bring back the a branch on the green line
OLX2ROZ t1_j0je7re wrote
Orange line to Roslindale
HelloWuWu t1_j0jczh2 wrote
The red line cutting between Green and Orange in Medford is perfect 🤌🏼
amacleay t1_j0l0kdb wrote
And out to Revere! It is insane how hard it is to get between the cities north of Boston, this would be an absolute game changer
Opposite-Treat3280 OP t1_j0i4u3x wrote
Based on comments from this post.
omgvector t1_j0i990z wrote
what map did you use for this?
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mascot_ZMT t1_j0ip3y7 wrote
Love it ! Now let’s find the 100B$ needed to finance the project
Regular_Method8444 t1_j0uhwdg wrote
That’s an underestimate if I’ve ever seen one.
Mankdemes122 t1_j0it9r4 wrote
Replace the E line with a covered nonstop conveyor belt
tm16scud t1_j0izitw wrote
I can already hear the squealing after Alewife
BenRed2006 t1_j0izp5e wrote
Add the commuter rail!
JPenniman t1_j0jcl21 wrote
The brown like should connect with packard corner I think.
gpberliner t1_j0jes8m wrote
The more realistic red line extension would be down between route 2.. The land there is already owned by the state and the logical end point would be a massive garage with direct access to 2 and 95.
I can't tell on the map but do you have the commuter lines connected between north and south station? This would be a huge connection for passengers. More than that though it would allow the trains to travel straight through and connects Maine to NYC and beyond.
Master_Dogs t1_j0jvel3 wrote
> The more realistic red line extension would be down between route 2.. The land there is already owned by the state and the logical end point would be a massive garage with direct access to 2 and 95.
No. The realistic extension would be under the Minute Man Bikeway, as was originally proposed during the original Red Line Northwest Extension during the 1980s. The Minute Man is owned by the State of MA and was originally used for Rail Transit as the Lexington Branch. As a result, it actually passes through numerous population and commercial centers such as Arlingtons downtown, Arlington Heights, and Lexington's downtown. It can reach 128 as well and there's enough relatively under utilized land around there that could make for a decent park and ride or transit oriented development.
> I can't tell on the map but do you have the commuter lines connected between north and south station? This would be a huge connection for passengers. More than that though it would allow the trains to travel straight through and connects Maine to NYC and beyond.
Just have to do the North/South Rail Link for this. It's a costly project ($10B to $20B are the cost estimates) but as you mentioned it unlocks a lot of potential for North/South shore connections. Even just directly connecting the two stations could make transfers way easier, especially for equipment maintenance and allowing for us to share equipment in real time vs having to shuffle equipment overnight via the Grand Junction freight railroad.
ElephantsRTasty t1_j0jky9o wrote
navy yard stop 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
n8loller t1_j0k3mqt wrote
I like the concept but this looks like a mess lol
RickWest495 t1_j0l4mi0 wrote
It should be a closed loop system, like the Interstate Highway system. Connect all those ends.
dahliaukifune t1_j0l7kr7 wrote
Always make sure that there’s a vertical link (like for example at the westernmost ends of the green line) so one doesn’t need to go waaay east to be able to go to that other place west.
Financial_Cancel1577 t1_j0l8qv3 wrote
Hooray for the yellow line! Also for that red that goes from my home to my work. Literally cuts the total number of miles in my commute in half.
ErockThud t1_j0l9k4d wrote
Please stop torturing me with this. I would pay 2k of cash right now for this to exist. 😭😭
One last tip or request as a melrose resident - zoom out a tad more and shift north to show the actual T stops. Best case is the terminal stop is in reading IMO
swampyscott t1_j0lcndn wrote
Should draw the blue line it all the way to Swampscott/Salem
Ok_Purpose_1606 t1_j0lf3bh wrote
The only thing that seems likely is the blue line connector to red. That will probably be a thing in next 10 years. The Union extension to Porter seems possible but maybe 20 years or more. Loop public transportation doesn't see a lot of ridership in most places because people want to go in direct lines to get places.
LukeWarmCheesecake t1_j0myuqt wrote
One more outer ring along 128 to rule them all.
TiredPistachio t1_j0i61rw wrote
this resolution though, my computer almost burst into flames.
minimagoo77 t1_j0iaphv wrote
Folks at Savin Hill def wouldn’t allow for a larger station and would probably get Lynch to nix it or direct it (yellow) to the dilapidated JFK/UMass stop as usual. Also, your red line doesn’t split until some unknown place before Fields Corner when it splits at JFK currently? Reason? Could just turn JFK/UMass into a major intersection moreso than it is and toss the yellow line in there too.
aray25 t1_j0ibdlc wrote
That's where the Red Line splits today. The Braintree branch parallels the Ashmont branch past Savin Hill without stopping.
Opposite-Treat3280 OP t1_j0ibjbk wrote
That part is geographically accurate actually, according to the link here to the current top post on this sub.
To respond to your point about opposition from the locals at Savin Hill, on the one hand I feel like I missed an opportunity to have the yellow and dark purple lines meet at JFK. On the other hand though, this will either a) never happen or b) be implemented by a god-emperor who doesn’t care what the locals say.
vhalros t1_j0i7i1z wrote
It looks great. So at our current rate of like 4 miles of track every forty years or so, this should only take like half a millennium to complete?