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Chippopotanuse t1_j2dffqq wrote

Reply to comment by Lemonio in This fight near Shawmut Station doesn’t bode well for easing Boston’s housing shortage - The Boston Globe by soxandpatriots1

The old conservative ethos of “we have lots of theories but no proof!”

Take those 18 states. The thesis of the video is “well, those states ought to show us what happens when republicans can’t obstruct things! But Dems are full of shit because they say they want more equality, better health care, blah blah blah, and those states are shitholes.”

But for those 18 states:

  • how does their life expectancy compare to the red/mixed states?

  • how does their median income compare?

  • how does their teen pregnancy rates compare?

  • how does their auto fatality and overdose rates compare?

  • what about women’s rights?

  • voting rights?

  • LGBTQ rights?

  • Legalized weed?

  • how does any other public health metric compare?

Because it isn’t really a burn to say “hey…these BLUE states that have their act together…hmmm, everyone seems to have higher incomes, folks live longer, they do better…and woah - what’s this - the land and houses cost more because MORE folks wants to live there than the shitty Red states…”

There’s a reason the video skimps on data.

Because it wouldn’t support any thesis that California, NY, NJ, CT, or MA is “worse off” or “promotes inequality” more than Texas, Louisiana, Missouri, West Virginia, or Alabama. Those states have shit tons of broke ass sick people who are suffering and dying of very preventable causes at ages far younger than they should be.

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Lemonio t1_j2dmqe9 wrote

I mean on the topic of this thread, it is true that there are issues with not enough housing and that zoning is often a problem

I’d like to be able to share some data when people I know oppose nearby housing projects

Obviously a video like this isn’t convincing if it just talks about like two examples

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Dukeofdorchester t1_j2dmobq wrote

Let me just start by saying I don’t vote because I’ve accepted we live in an oligarchy and both parties are set on keeping it that way. I’m just speaking strictly on the cost of housing. The most expensive places to rent are mostly in Democratic areas. You’re right about the good things about those areas. That being said, the solution to make it affordable so more people can make a go at having a great life is to build more housing. My point is: the Republicans say “pull up your bootstraps”, the Democrats say “not in my backyard”. It’s two sides of the same coin when it comes down to it.

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IDCFFSGTFO t1_j2dqihq wrote

>I don't vote

Stopped reading right there. Your opinion literally does not matter if you aren't willing to put your money where your mouth is. Non-participation in democracy is why we can't have nice things.

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Dukeofdorchester t1_j2dylwy wrote

We don’t have a democracy when the two ruling parties only serve wall st, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, the military industrial complex and special interests. I’ve just accepted it and have stopped pretending my vote matters and these politicians are actually going to do something for the common good.

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