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Funkybeatzzz t1_j2ao67l wrote

Reply to comment by MesaVerde87 in People who stop because they’ve missed their turn on a rotary- do you realize it’s a circle? by roadtrip-ne

My gripe is when people in the outer lane don’t exit when they’re supposed to and keep going around preventing those in the inner lane from exiting. Outer lane are supposed to exit at the first or second exit and the inner lane at the second and beyond. The inner lane should never have to cross any cars in the outer lane if you drive correctly.

https://www.epermittest.com/drivers-education/roundabouts

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MyStackRunnethOver t1_j2as8g2 wrote

And furthermore: you’re allowed to enter a multi lane roundabout with traffic coming in next to you because of the above. But when entering, you have to yield to ALL traffic already in ANY lane of the roundabout. You may not enter next to someone who’s coming around in the inner lane even if you’re entering in the outer. That’s because your entering may interfere with that person’s exiting if they want to exit before you do

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Archivist1380 t1_j2atc7r wrote

To be fair, a lot of rotaries are made very small these days. To the point where by the time you get into the inner lane you’re probably passed your turn so there’s no point ever getting into the inner lane which defeats the whole point.

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ahecht t1_j2c5xs9 wrote

That's why I like the Wakefield rotary. The lanes spiral outwards, so it's impossible to camp in the outer lane.

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cloud-cover t1_j2b1ixx wrote

Well, the inner lane will still have to cross the outer lane cars that joined <= 2 exits ago, as cars join the rotary at every exit. Maybe I'm very stupid, but I've never seen a rotary that could work like this idealized explanation (which I've heard before) proposes.

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Funkybeatzzz t1_j2b29es wrote

Read the other reply about yielding

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cloud-cover t1_j2b65sr wrote

I'm talking about the case of me being in the outer lane, having just joined, passing exit #1 (according to your theory, it's okay if I'm here and want to leave in the second exit). But an inner car wants to leave at the exit I'm passing but I'm in the way! Doesn't quite work.

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Funkybeatzzz t1_j2b6fkk wrote

Hence the other post about yielding. You shouldn’t have entered in the first place. If the inner lane car can’t exit that means you didn’t yield and entered right beside them on the outer lane.

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No-Confidence4933 t1_j2dmzkp wrote

No one in the inner lane should need to exit. You get into the outer lane to exit.

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cloud-cover t1_j2dueb4 wrote

Funkybeatzzz theory is more correct, I think. There are many, many rotaries explicitly marked contrary to your idea.

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No-Confidence4933 t1_j2dvmc3 wrote

Unless the exits are also 2 lanes, it’s just not safe to exit from the inside

Edit: even then, it’s still not always safe

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Funkybeatzzz t1_j2f0kpw wrote

It’s not safe only because the outer lane people have no clue how these things work.

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Funkybeatzzz t1_j2f0e2b wrote

Yeah, this totally isn’t how roundabouts work. Do you drive much? Most multi lane roundabouts exit on at least two lane roads. They’d be single lane roundabouts if not.

Edit: also if you follow the other rules about yielding this wouldn’t be an issue. You’re clearly part of the problem.

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Incredibob_ t1_j2ayx2x wrote

Same with multi lane highways. Only travel in the middle lane(s). Left is for overtaking, then you move over in case someone wants to pass you, otherwise you force them to pass on the right, which itself is illegal as it disrupts the intended flow. And right is for entering/exiting, not blocking people from entering/exiting or overtaking the bags blocking the passing lane... but all this assumes people have read and will obey traffic protocol design. But given then amount of people I've seen pass their test through crying and pity the only bet is to assume everyone on Storrow screams "WHITNESS ME!!!!" as they dodge lanes...

Edit: I've been corrected and will now use the right lanes to pass! Now I can do stupid things LEGALLY!

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Rockhbuck t1_j2ba0fs wrote

Your comment on multi-lane highway driving is 100% wrong.

From the Mass Driver’s Manual:

Stay to the right and only use the left lane for passing. On an expressway with three or more lanes in your direction, use the far right lane for slower driving, the middle lane for faster driving, and the far left lane for passing.

Also, match speed of traffic when entering the expressway, don’t stop. You’ll get people hurt or killed.

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Incredibob_ t1_j2cfu0l wrote

I could have sworn it was expressly prohibited when I read the manual 20 years ago. I stand corrected and will adjust my passing accordingly!

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BuckeyeBentley t1_j2brok7 wrote

In other words: If you're getting passed on your right, you are going too slow for your lane and need to move over to the right. And if you want to pass someone, you should not undertake them (on the right) and should pass them on the left.

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soh_amore t1_j2cxftc wrote

Mass. : match the speed of traffic while merging on the expressway.

Also Mass. : Has yield signs on entrances

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