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calartnick t1_j8sn0xv wrote

Not sure he can count that high

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Ok_Champion6840 t1_j8t3qbm wrote

Trump inherited a robust growing economy and managed to destroy it along with nearly every agency. He replaced professionals and experts with realtors and dog groomers, installed toadies or donors and let his incompetent children run major offices. His lack of interest in reading or even caring to listen was well documented by former staff.

What is surprising is how few of these metrics were negatively impacted by his decimation of the executive branch.

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jxj24 t1_j8t7yh6 wrote

As long as he draws breath he can cause harm.

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Kesshh t1_j8tci4r wrote

One thing I don’t like about these stats is that it seems to want people to conclude direct cause and effect when everything (politics, policies, economics, human behaviors, etc.) are so complicated and intertwined, not to mention the effect of governmental policies is often delayed for years before it is known.

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bad_syntax t1_j8v9k41 wrote

Correlation <> Causation

Presidents have very little to do with the success of a country. That lies in congress, the senate, business, pandemics, etc, etc, etc.

Though he did suck in every way, and did massive damage, it wasn't just him.

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chuteboxhero t1_j8vqmfw wrote

Yes for sure and they can be so intricate that it doesn’t really capture the overall sentiment of what is being said.

This isn’t any type of trump endorsement at all but an example of a fact check totally painting a narrative. I remember when trump backed out of the Paris climate accord he said that China would wipe out any progress made if the accords goals were met in two weeks. The fact checkers said it was false because it would actually take 59 days instead of two weeks. Yes technically not to the day correct but the general point he was trying to get across was generally true (albeit stupid to bring up by him ).

Trump lied about so many fucking things but it’s also clear that some fact checkers were just hell bent on finding a way to prove he’s lying about everything.

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anusty t1_j8wgpvt wrote

Fact check is biased and COVID had a huge impact in last year in office

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gabotuit t1_j8xg81w wrote

I was thinking more about the ‘normal’ as in not having a freaking dictator due to a weak/failed state yielding to a coup in the congress or other corrupting forces acting against it from inside. This system allows the crazies to speak their minds but it doesn’t change the core operating principles.

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