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hatersaurusrex t1_jagjj65 wrote

"I'm a sensible moderate and can see party politics has totally devolved into the WWE, but reluctantly choose between one of two pandering, ineffective fully special-interest owned sycophants every single cycle because the henhouse is being held hostage by the foxes who have a gun to my sacred unicorn's head"

-Most of America, by far

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value_bet t1_jago9my wrote

Most of America, by far?! Did you look at the graph? Only 40% are independent. Most of America (almost 60%) actually likes one party or the other well enough to register as a member.

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hatersaurusrex t1_jagpfrk wrote

Yes, I did indeed see that fans of The Rock, when added to those of Steve Austin, statistically outnumber those who know that wrestling is a fixed sham and maybe throwing elbows at each other isn't the best method of political discourse, but feel trapped and compelled to root for one or the other since there's no viable third option in a rigged system.

Who would you suggest comes in with the chair?

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Tyler_Zoro OP t1_jawjviy wrote

> Who would you suggest comes in with the chair?

/r/EndFPTP would be my preference ;-)

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phdoofus t1_jahmnyi wrote

Translation: "both sides are the same". Disagree, but you do you.

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Tyler_Zoro OP t1_jawkkm7 wrote

> "both sides are the same".

This is a very weak take.

If you're offered the choice of drinking poison or having your toenails ripped out, those options are absolutely not the same. But that doesn't mean that we should all line up in pro-toenail-ripping and pro-poison camps and start defending our tribalistic in-groups.

Both of those are terrible options even if they have radical and substantial differences, and we might even describe one as objectively "better" than that other. The fact that there are a myriad of other options is also important information.

Here in the US, political parties are locked down by the voting system we use. There is a substantial effort to move away from that voting system, which has seen major successes over the past 10-20 years, and continues to do so. Please support /r/EndFPTP and related communities in moving forward, rather than just pushing false dichotomies.

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hatersaurusrex t1_jaht015 wrote

Translation: Only idiots think Ric Flair is better than Dusty Rhodes, but WHOOOO do WHOOOOOOOOOO, baby.

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