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cgw3737 t1_jddw46h wrote

I've been watching Enterprise lately and I think it's slightly underrated

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JCPRuckus t1_jdefza4 wrote

Have you gotten to season 3? Personally, I found it terrible, which really brought down an otherwise adequate average up until then... Also the series finalé is an atrocity.

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cgw3737 t1_jdhlb2a wrote

You just don't have "Faith of the heart"

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JCPRuckus t1_jdi1r3y wrote

Season 3 is also when they jazz that up, which makes it actually a bad song on top of being a bad Star Trek theme... 🤮

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FlavorlessBiscuit t1_jdjtx4e wrote

I just recently started watching Enterpise as well, and I totally agree. I cane in with low expectations, but have been pleasantly surprised. As another commenter said, Season 3 was a bit rough but all in all I've enjoyed the series.

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LongLastingStick t1_jddwhog wrote

Eh, it has some good parts particularly in the last season, but it's deservedly bottom tier with Picard and Voyager (and maybe TOS....)

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Northman67 t1_jddxlcn wrote

It has some pretty awful episodes early on but it gets exceedingly good at the end. In my personal opinion that last season is some of the best Star Trek ever made. Luckily it's subjective so we don't have to agree lol.

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LongLastingStick t1_jddyou4 wrote

Fair enough. I like the last season and wish there was another, it felt like it was really on the upswing. Shran as a regular? Yes please.

The xindi arc had its moments but overall just a worse Dominion.

My most recent rewatch takeaway was that T’Pol really carried the first seasons despite the insistence on her eye candy. Then the writers screw up her character and side line her at the end.

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cgw3737 t1_jddy6yo wrote

I guess I just like Star Trek in general

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mikevago t1_jdei3fq wrote

The first two seasons of Picard are a hot mess, but the third season has been terrific. I went in expecting a bunch of empty fan service, but they really delve into the TNG characters and how they've changed over time, and interrogate their relationship to Picard. And that's all balanced with some great action and mystery.

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LongLastingStick t1_jdejpee wrote

I’m glad you’re enjoying it (most people seem to be!). I don’t totally agree on S3 but 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I like Patrick Stewart, I like the TNG cast, but Picard has been easily the worst new series for me, possibly the worst overall if it weren’t for TAS lol.

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mikevago t1_jdel71l wrote

I agree the first two seasons were a huge waste of Patrick Stewart's talents. But they really righted the ship with the third and he has some terrific acting moments. (And Frakes really shines as both an actor and director)

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LongLastingStick t1_jdemh5z wrote

For me it's the plotting (I haven't watched today's episode) -

  • Picard has a secret child that he never knew about, with his best friend, who also has special john wick powers
  • Bringing back the Dominion is great, except these are like, renegade super changelings that behave totally differently to the Founders we've already met. Also they've infiltrated the highest levels of the Federation, just like S1 Zhat Vash.
  • Hinging last week's episode on Ro Laren. It's great seeing Michelle Forbes again, but there's a lot of presumed emotional resonance for a character we haven't seen in 30 years.

It feels like *Nemesis-*level plotting.

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twilightchickens t1_jdep2n6 wrote

Season 3 opens with a septuagenarian Dr. Beverly Crusher wasting a bunch of aliens with an assault rifle. This season is better than the earlier ones in the same way a smelly fart is better than shitting your pants.

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