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teamlessinseattle t1_irn9727 wrote

Reply to comment by uhhiforget in Gun violence in Philadeplphia. Not beautiful, but... by uhhiforget

Judging by that map, poverty is unsurprisingly the #1 predictor

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uhhiforget OP t1_irncslv wrote

No doubt, it's almost a 1:1 overlap.

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teamlessinseattle t1_irnihum wrote

Just pointing out that your belief that “lack of ownership for one’s actions” is the cause assumes people living in these poorer neighborhoods are somehow morally inferior to those living in well-off neighborhoods, rather than, you know, it being about their material conditions and systemic neglect.

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uhhiforget OP t1_irnqx2i wrote

I don't believe anyone is born with better morals than other people. Someone's up-bringing can definitely give them a distorted lense that makes it much more difficult to make morally correct decisions, but the choice is still on the individual to make. And a lot of these people are deciding to shoot each other. Its not as if poverty makes you a criminal. Additionally, a lot of the people in these areas make decisions that one way or another put them in the scenario in which they have children which they cannot/refuse to properly parent. So what's ultimately the cause of the perpetuated violence? The cycle needs to be broken somewhere along the line, and policy moves slow.

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857477459 t1_irnoi8a wrote

Something else is actually the #1 predictor and we all know what it is but we're not allowed to say it.

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teamlessinseattle t1_irp4wjx wrote

Wow yeah, it’s almost as if certain groups in America are somehow more likely to live in poverty than others. Surely that has nothing to do with our history though.

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