brian_sahn t1_irndxw9 wrote on October 9, 2022 at 4:16 PM

Reply to comment by redeggplant01 in Gun violence in Philadeplphia. Not beautiful, but... by uhhiforget

Can you link a study that shows this? I’m skeptical because everything I see is the opposite

SeanyBravo t1_irnnhrq wrote on October 9, 2022 at 5:20 PM

Both these link conflate suicides whit gun violence. When this is done it to make gun “violence” seem more uniform when the reality is that place where guns are legally available to the citizen have more gun suicides well the place where guns are hard to obtain for any citizen tend to have more non-gun suicides. Making data on violence appear uniform when it’s far from the truth.

[deleted] t1_irnowfx wrote on October 9, 2022 at 5:29 PM

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SeanyBravo t1_irns8ti wrote on October 9, 2022 at 5:50 PM

Your own links stat that they included the fact that 60% of gun deaths are suicides. When we don’t control for suicides we get leaders in gun “violence” being the likes of AK, WY, and MT. When we only look at police and criminal shootings places like IL, DC, and the impoverished southern state lead.

You can look at this handy map here

https://everystat.org

The reality is that the predictors of gun violence is more closely related to poverty then ownership.

Pretending gun suicides and gun violence are the same keeps you unable to solve either issue as you will never address the true root problems.