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patienceisfun2018 t1_iums544 wrote

I'm not particularly anti-gun like a lot of people on Reddit are, but think about a situation where you would actually use your gun correctly:

-You notice an intruder without them noticing you

-You are able to silently unlatch your gun

-you are able to silently load ammunition into it

-you are able to correctly identify them as an intruder

-you are able to correctly identify a weapon they intend to use on you

-you are able to provide a warning to them

-you are able to correctly aim and hit them in a neutralizing location on their body

-you are able to disarm them safely and call the police.

It seems like what's actually more likely to happen is

-kid accesses the gun and fires it causing a tragedy

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akohhh t1_iupnvra wrote

The person most as risk of harm from a gun is the person who owns it. Half the gun deaths in the US are suicides, and suicide is much more a combo of motive and immediate means than people realize—it’s why adding barriers to landmark bridges is worth bothering with. It’s an incredibly sad statistic amongst the focus on the visceral but numerically much smaller horror of mass shootings.

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kangyrooCourtJuror t1_iumspnu wrote

How many of these are suicides?

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kangyrooCourtJuror t1_iumszlc wrote

"According to the group, firearm suicide among ages 10 to 24 is at its highest rate in more than 20 years."

"Everytown's research also found that 90% of suicide attempts with a gun are fatal. In attempts without a gun, just 4% result in death. This data was further supported in a 2021 study, which states that "access to lethal means matters." 

source

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cgspam OP t1_iumpdeg wrote

Following up yesterday's post specifically about Americans, What should kids really be afraid of?, this chart compares against the other OECD member nations with above-median GDP. Only in the US do guns and cars each kill more than twice as many kids as cancer.

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Greenembo t1_iurmrqz wrote

Even ignoering firearms, the Numbers of the US are extreme, the US has around 4 times the population of Germany, but every single metric is far higher then 4 times .

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tap_the_cap t1_iurcx1w wrote

wish we could see this without suicides and gang activity

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cgspam OP t1_iurz5hj wrote

The other countries have gangs too, but somehow US have way more gun violence. CDC data estimates that at most 11% of all firearm homicides are due to gang activity in the US. See my other recent post for split into homicides vs suicides, but it’s majority homicides.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_iumx4ws wrote

None of those countries are even remotely comparable to America.by any metric they are only comparable to an American State.

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HurlingFruit t1_iun4duc wrote

They answered your point by stating that the US accounted for 97% of child deaths by firearms in all OECD countries while representing only 42% of the population.

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