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Mountain-Lecture-320 t1_iv18b89 wrote

🤮 vanguard

It's a shame none of the fossil fuel and defense free ETFs make the cut yet.

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jonnysteps t1_iv1f3p2 wrote

I'm curious. Why 🤮 for vanguard?

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Mountain-Lecture-320 t1_iv1p5si wrote

Their US PAC donations and leadership. They're like cartoon bad guy sometimes, and their peers listed here are tame or even decent by comparison.

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Maakus t1_iv1pb3b wrote

Vanguard is a successful fund however I think their issue with the fund is that they contribute to defense and fossil fuel stocks that one could argue are not acceptable/sustainable for the future of mankind.

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scheav t1_iv2xete wrote

I'll make sure to buy some extra Vanguard funds containing defense and fossil fuel stocks to make up for your boycott. Maybe they should come up with a fund containing only those.

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BigDataBoy t1_iv2f9n8 wrote

Think you need to watch this my guy:

Ben Felix explains ESG

If we undervalue companies you don’t like, someone else has a significantly higher expected return by investing in them. Thus, the marketplace is still efficient. Thematic etfs are just a way to make Wall Street richer by charging higher ER.

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Mountain-Lecture-320 t1_iv2i6pe wrote

He did not make the same assertions as you have. None of what he said is surprising to me nor contrary to my existing knowledge on the topic.

I recognize he points to an error in my "fossil fuel and defense free" statement, that it rarely/never is so cut and dry.

Being flatly unwilling to trade in blood money is a fundamental values-based approach that requires no economic justification.

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Eiknarf95 t1_iv1lmtv wrote

Invesco has a Solar ETF ($TAN), I’m not sure how QQQ is on clean energy and defense free though

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Mountain-Lecture-320 t1_iv1obvh wrote

SPDR has $SPYX, also not listed. QQQ doesn't seem to have energy or defense represented in any great proportions, so my prior assertion about fossil fuels and defense may not be right.

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AugmentedLurker t1_iv8wyk5 wrote

>defense free

Why would you not invest in defense during some of the absolute largest surges in defense spending in decades...

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