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fjccommish t1_izvamly wrote

Turn off your computer. Stop driving. Turn off your electric appliances. Show us the way.

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EclecticKant t1_izw7j6c wrote

The only options are a 20% reduction or returning to the bronze age?

Following the same path of the EU would be more than enough, and probably more than anyone expects or asks from the USA, the EU produces roughly half the tons of Co2 both per Capita and per dollar of value produced compared to the US. And the US is probably richer than the average European country, so the lack of money is probably not the problem.

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fjccommish t1_izy6rvt wrote

I agree. You first.

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EclecticKant t1_izy75bn wrote

I'm European. I already went first.

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fjccommish t1_izyjszh wrote

What have YOU done that you are demanding Americans do to stop fake global warming?

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EclecticKant t1_j014bwk wrote

Pollute less?

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fjccommish t1_j03020n wrote

What have I polluted?

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EclecticKant t1_j030qka wrote

16 tons of co2 each year, on average.

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fjccommish t1_j0369fq wrote

CO2 isn't a pollutant. Plants need it to grow and thrive.

You've measured the CO2 I put out?

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EclecticKant t1_j03ahed wrote

Co2 is an infrared absorber, that's the problem.

And yes, people measured, the fact that co2 absorbs infrared makes it easy to measure its quantity. People measured how much the USA releases, then they divided it by the population to get an average.

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fjccommish t1_j03as1x wrote

I asked what am I polluting.

CO2 is not a pollutant.

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EclecticKant t1_j03eghx wrote

From Wikipedia

A pollutant or novel entity[1] is a substance or energy introduced into the environment that has undesired effects, or adversely affects the usefulness of a resource.

Co2 has the unwanted and negative effect of absorbing infrared emissions of the earth surface, so it is a pollutant. I'm really curious as to why co2 is not a pollutant according to you, because plants use it?

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fjccommish t1_j04eraf wrote

From scientists:

"A new study published recently by three veteran researchers reveals that "EPA's basic claim that CO2 is a pollutant is totally false.""

"The authors - Drs. Jim Wallace, John Christy and Joe D'Aleo - stated there is "very, very little doubt but that EPA's claim of a Tropical Hot Spot, caused by rising atmospheric CO2 levels, simply does not exist in the real world.""

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