Submitted by Metalytiq t3_zlqyox in dataisbeautiful
turtle4499 t1_j07zc95 wrote
Reply to comment by jrkib8 in [OC] Cost of Carbon Zero - Historical Look At U.S. Funding of Fusion Energy by Metalytiq
No one has ever achieved a fusion reaction (in a reactor not a bomb) that produced net positive energy. I dont understand why we are investing in this when we can do fission right now. Most nuclear waste can be used by different reactor types to recycle it. The very small amount left over that can be stored by digging a fucking hole.
Brittainicus t1_j0837kx wrote
We did it barely at the end of last year and earlier this week we hit 150% return 2MJ in 3MJ out.
turtle4499 t1_j084k6c wrote
They have not even remotely achieved that.
https://twitter.com/skdh/status/1602907470133100547
Its only a net positive if u dont include 99% of the energy.
jrkib8 t1_j082mxt wrote
I fully support continual use and future investment increases into new fission reactors. But having an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude is laughable when you have Chernobyl, Fukushima, and 3 Mile Island staring you in the face. And don't pretend it's just digging a hole for disposal. Simply transporting spent fuel is an immense cost
turtle4499 t1_j084zju wrote
https://twitter.com/skdh/status/1602907470133100547
Fusion reactions arent even remotely close to viable.
You can assemble different reactor types in close proximity, which has never been done, and eliminate 99% of nuclear waste. Its never been done because we dont build them with this intended we just yeet the stuff into the ground.
jrkib8 t1_j085egg wrote
Her next statement is that commercialization is decades away, which both her and the announcement agreed with.
And thanks for literally ignoring the entire comment you replied to
jrkib8 t1_j085ul4 wrote
Her next statement is that commercialization is decades away, which both her and the announcement agreed with. Nothing contradicts my statement.
Also, I have cited nearly every claim I've made and you have not. We're not equally discussing this in good faith. Pretending fission is harmless is a joke. It's worth the risk IMO, but stop downplaying actual nuclear meltdowns
turtle4499 t1_j088qc8 wrote
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/death-rates-from-energy-production-per-twh
Stop over hyping reactor metldowns. There have been more deaths per terawatt from fucking WIND POWER!!!
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