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UsrHpns4rctct t1_j0p8ye4 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] World Cup 2022 : Evolution of the probabilities of winning the world cup according to the bookmakers by TheKitof

If there is one team I can guarantee(-ish) will not win, that is England. Always hot in, thinking they are the best, but their inflated egos never get them anywhere. When that is said, England for sure has some great young talent coming up.

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Flobarooner t1_j0prh77 wrote

God fuck off it gets so tiring reading salty anglophobes constantly chat this utter nonsense about us having "inflated egos", probably the least egotistical big team in the entire tournament. Who on the England team has an ego? Literally none of them, a group of players renowned for being humble. And then we lose to France, a team full of massive fucking egos, mostly because of the ref. So I don't see how you can "guarantee" we wouldn't win

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UsrHpns4rctct t1_j0s15zo wrote

The nation, not the players. British media somehow seems to think that England "surely will and deserve to be up there", but time and again reality hits them when yet another cup is over and England has traveled home a week or two before the final.

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ClarenceTheClam t1_j0prx3w wrote

In no way is this actually true though. You're getting confused by a comedy football song ("It's coming home"), and the general jokey positive atmosphere around English football at the moment now that we're no longer absolutely dreadful every tournament. The idea of England being any more arrogant about their chances than any other nation is just a meme (for us and other nations).

The players are a young and down to earth group, the manager is the furthest from arrogant you can get, and no pundits back here were seriously predicting England to win the world cup. On the BBC the predictions were 7x Brazil, 3 x Argentina, 2 x France and 1 x England (which she admitted was just a heart decision and her head said Brazil).

As for guaranteeing we'll never win anything, I can't really disagree considering we've never won a thing in my lifetime, but we were only a penalty shootout away from winning the Euros!

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UsrHpns4rctct t1_j0rzxs6 wrote

Euros sure was close to a miracle. Be real, England/british is systematically arrogant. Hyping up everything with a UK-passport (and English) and playing in EPL, and talking down any equally great player who are not English. Or imagine a English player doing rather well, but are sadly not doing it in EPL are totally ignored...

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bsnimunf t1_j0q958h wrote

England never go into a world cup thinking they are the best. That is the most ridiculous shit I have ever heard. They are world class professional players who play in the premier League and champions league against the best players in the world they know exactly the quality of player and teams they are facing and know that even if you are the best your going to have to fight tooth and nail to even get to the semis.

If anything the fans have a generally pessimistic attitude.

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UsrHpns4rctct t1_j0ry3ez wrote

They are a few good players that are being hyped into insanity because of their passport (Kane is a great example of that). Just as any similarly good player are discredited because they are not british, playing in EPL.

It's also interesting that the expectation (that you put forward) for such a team is semi-finals in a World Cup. It was a wonder (esp. with Southgate) that they got to the last EC-final. A semi (in WC) for England is possible but surely not where they realistically is going to be.

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bsnimunf t1_j0tarvt wrote

I don't put forward an expectation I merely pointed out that even the most highly ranked teams have to work very hard to make it to the semis to illustrate the high standard of sport the is played in the world cup and that the players and teams know that so I doubt any team is going in with an inflated ego. Also last world cup England got to the semis so in terms of results Southgate is probably the best performing England manager since 66.

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