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hlferreira t1_j0s9jkm wrote

Cristiano*. I'm biased because I'm Portuguese, but this means very little when considering the teams Argentina as had throughout the years comparing to ours.

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nightb4xmas t1_j0uox9d wrote

I just can't get behind this argument. 2022: Portugal faced no top 10 teams and was knocked out by 22nd ranked Morocco; Argentina defeated 2 top 10 teams and won. 2018: Portugal knocked out by 17th ranked Uruguay; Argentina knocked out by 7th ranked and eventual champions France. 2014: Portugal did not advance out of Group including a 4-0 loss to eventual champions Germany; Argentina advanced to the Finals losing to Germany 1-0 after extra time. In the two prior Cups they both fell to top European sides in Knockout play.

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hlferreira t1_j10jrkv wrote

I'm not saying messi is better or worse. I'm saying messi has had an undoubtedly better team throughout the years, which counts a lot to having more games and scoring more goals.

But yeah, everyone here agrees our team should perform better throughout the years. 2010 we were unlucky, 2014 was a disgrace, 2018 we played better than uruguay but the game is what it is, and 2022 morocco parked the bus as it should have, but they also knocked belgium and spain out.

The rank doesn't really matter specially in knock out stages, we were 3rd for a good amount of time, yet I would never say we were actually the third best national team in that era.

And there is an obvious correlation with the number of games played

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lets-try-again2 t1_j0ti0hw wrote

That’s my argument. Everyone saying messi is better. No he’s just got a better team that’s been underperforming for years.

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