[OC] Defence budgets around the worldSubmitted by giteam t3_zx6596 in dataisbeautiful
pastdecisions t1_j1zx8zj wrote
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Only 4% of the gdp though. So compared to the percent of gdp, it's a lot less than other countries.
zoom100000 t1_j2055fs wrote
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/defense-spending-by-country
According to this the US is 16th in spending compared to GDP in 2020. Looking at the top 20-30, I can’t really say I feel like we’re in good company.
hitemlow t1_j20bnzf wrote
That's mostly because most of Europe doesn't meet NATO's minimum recommended defense spending.
Few_Time_7441 t1_j20dlve wrote
4% is double the minimum requirement.
ferrel_hadley t1_j20hbao wrote
>4% of the gdp though. So compared to the percent of gdp, it's a lot less than other countries.
3.3%ish. And most of the west relies on US logistics and intelligence.
Even as a European I would be happy for the US to spend less and the Europeans to build out more logistics capability. The UK is the only country with a reasonable airlift capacity. French operations in west Africa partially depend on that and the US.
hitemlow t1_j20gpa8 wrote
Yes, and 2% is the minimum. Should "developed" countries in Europe really be hitting just the minimum (of which they're not even meeting that) every year?
PandaDerZwote t1_j23eehs wrote
Seeing how Russia is fairing (which NATO is the explicit counterweight to), 2% seems high if anything.
Few_Time_7441 t1_j20hu19 wrote
Well, it's their budget. Nato is a US project, they were able to increase their sphere of influence due to it. Why would these smaller countries do more than they can get away with?
They can spend extra money on what they care about. Sound like a pretty smart and developed move.
Suspicious-Feeling-1 t1_j21o6kg wrote
It's a great strategy for peacetime. I think a lot of European nations are rethinking it in light of Russian aggression.
protosser t1_j22b8hr wrote
And they'll never have to, the US isn't (can't) going to enforce it...because military bases (which the US has a lot of in Europe) are more important than NATO member spending the minimum
SodaWithoutSparkles t1_j22xpxs wrote
Its also because the US does not actually meet the amount asked by the UN
mr_ji t1_j21bfgs wrote
Bang for buck, I don't think anyone else even comes close. You could hand the actual dollar amount we spend to any other country and they couldn't produce a force with a fraction the capability.
zoom100000 t1_j21mh5s wrote
Got a source on that?
mr_ji t1_j21qn76 wrote
...a military career with heavy exposure to FMS, logistics, and strategic planning? You can't quantify the value or benefit of global military power projection, so obviously there isn't some peer-reviewed study to cite. However, the infrastructure of the U.S. military is light years ahead of anything else the world has ever seen. It's past the point that money is a limfac in what's possible or not.
zoom100000 t1_j21tit9 wrote
That’s fair thanks for sharing. I didn’t think your comment was completely outrageous, but definitely was a big statement to make.
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