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False-Persimmon-8461 t1_j3g2w74 wrote

Interesting. Ukraine population is 3.4x less than Russia’s. But births last year are 5x less (!) according to the chart…

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Populationdemography OP t1_j3cupr8 wrote

Ukraine and Russia number of births, 1962–2021

Sources: Ukrstat; Rosstat

Made with ms Excel instruments

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SlowCrates t1_j3d61hr wrote

I would be willing to help those numbers go up.

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iwery t1_j3e0dor wrote

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Relevant-Season1995 t1_j3cz066 wrote

I can understand why Russia's fell in the early 90s, but why so quickly since 2016?

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iohognbdfh t1_j3d02mk wrote

I'm sure there are multiple factors, but you already mentioned the obvious one. 1990 and 2016 are 26 years apart.. in other words a generation apart. Less babies today because there's less women in their child bearing years today due to the drop in births from the previous generation. Generations echo across time. In the same way that millennials in the US are the largest generation because they echo the baby boom.

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Composer-Fragrant t1_j3gnrf1 wrote

Fertility rates would make way more sense to compare, the graph currently gives very little actual insight. However still not sure what the point is.

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glmory t1_j3ik3oy wrote

Total births is a better number. You don’t supply an army from your birthrate, you supply it from the number of babies who were born a few decades ago.

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Composer-Fragrant t1_j3ktiu8 wrote

If you want to compare the size of their armies or reserve, you could do that without a time series, as a gross number or percentage of population. If you want to compare the development of fertility over time, potentially as a cause of events, as well as being able to compare this development between nations of different population, fertility rates is the way to go.

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iohognbdfh t1_j3cxbzd wrote

Not to state the obvious, but Ukraine (in its modern form) didn't exist until 1991.

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SillyBanana123 t1_j3cz3q5 wrote

Neither did Russia, but they were republics within the USSR. Whether or not Ukraine was independent or not doesn’t change the fact that they recorded demographic information

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iohognbdfh t1_j3d0w8f wrote

The point is what is this graph even trying to represent?

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nikshdev t1_j3dvclf wrote

Births recorded on the territories that are now Russia and Ukraine.

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