Inhabitedmind t1_itqu0hu wrote on October 25, 2022 at 5:06 PM

Reply to comment by SinisterCheese in ELI5 - why are oil protestors attacking art? Wouldn’t it make more sense to go after oil companies themselves? by Silent_Palpatine

There are many examples that get the media attention that doesn't get people pissed at the cause.Steve-o protested sea world a while back. It didn't hurt anyone or destroy anything but it got people's attention. the funny "look at this idiot up there". He went to jail and got some articles written on him. It raised awareness for animal rights without coming off as a pompous twat who just wants attention and happen to have a cause behind it.

The people gluing their hands to the floor, blocking traffic, and attempting to destroy artwork aren't coming off as some hero to change but as people who inconvenience the lil man who has no say in what oil corporations do.

Like this climate protest where they blocked the roads and may have cost a man his parole. How is that helpful? People are just trying to get to work and they felt it was appropriate to hold everyone up, also wasting more gas keeping these cars idle, and did fuck all for climate activism.

It isn't working, we all know climate change is an issue. You all just aren't giving 1, the incentive to help and 2. solutions to help. Just a bunch of fuckheads inconveniencing people for the sake of...acknowledging climate change?

I want them to do better, to have a catch me moment that is simple for people to go "Hey, I can do that!" vs "Yes, big corporations are the main issue for climate change and my car doesn't help but I can't afford a better alternative or stop what corporations are doing".

SinisterCheese t1_itqvs2o wrote on October 25, 2022 at 5:17 PM

Well you just posted two things which got media attention.

You know what the extinction rebellion did in Finland last summer at a Rally? They peacefully protested. https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12565745

What was done to them? Slurry made of cowshit was shot at them.

Care to explain what was so bad that they deserved such actions that the police arrested those people who shot shit at them?

Now I'm not part of extinction rebellion, but I am worried of climate change.

But you want solutions? I have some for you. Carbon tariffs at the EU border. Severe penalties for fossil fuel use. More nuclear power. Ban combustion engine cars for personal use and have a buyout program. Add tariffs to fossilfuels. Equally share carbon credits to everyone living in EU, which can be traded against cash and limit consumption against these; since wealthy people consume and emit more emission, they have to buy the right to emit - no more riding on the backs of poor people while you get to spoil in luxury even if you can afford the taxes.

Now present to me your solutions to this issue.

Because I can tell you that it is a fucking inconvienience when summer temperaturs keep going up and weather gets drier to the point that rivers are running dry around the world. But I assume this is not an inconvience?