Right! I was just going on a small rant about this to my coworker who I then realized is one of those ill informed people who still thinks msg is bad for you. I use like 1.5 tbs in a large pot of pho max! I can’t even imagine what 4 tbs in 5 cups of water would taste like! He is also using too much star anise. He must have barely functional tastebuds or something…