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maxcorrice t1_j8bk215 wrote

And now a trashy dumbass billionaire who’s obsessed with mars one upped nasa through funding his own rocket company, we both clearly don’t like it, but things don’t get done fast unless those with lots of money want them to, i mean fuck it required two dictators who are two of the worst people in history to get us to the moon (albeit indirectly from the first and competition with the second)

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jetstobrazil t1_j8bol6l wrote

Yea he didn’t fund it, he bought it, and then we subsidized it as tax payers.

They didn’t one up NASA, who has been underfunded for decades, and has landed humans on the moon, they outspent them.

Collecting taxes which are owed anyway, and funding important programs is a good way to be one of those with “lots of money” and can get things done fast.

The dictators didn’t get us to the moon, funding NASA and recruiting scientists and engineers through funding got us to the moon.

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pimpmayor t1_j8chf6b wrote

I vibe with your point, but the tax breaks that companies like spacex/tesla and Amazon get are specifically to fund research, that's how they get the tax breaks.

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maxcorrice t1_j8bsk9y wrote

Buying something is funding it, he then used his money to get that taxpayer money

the end result is what matters here, NASA should have way more control over their operations and much more funding but that’s not how it is sadly, and if we did prosthetics the same way the shuttle program went we’d still be stuck on hooks

anything government funded has so much excess bureaucracy that it’ll never be fast, best we can hope for is the lowest level being fast so the common person doesn’t experience delays on current stuff, but R&D is only going to go fast if there’s some big incentive, and again, without someone powerful or some nutcase cutting off thousands of arms overnight, the incentive won’t be there

Von Braun, critical to the apollo program, would never have been hired if not for his work on the V2 rocket, and NASA would never have been funded enough for the apollo program if not for the soviets and the space race

kiddo you’re living in a fantasy world, social programs are amazing for stuff that’s here and now, but they don’t push development without immense pressure

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-1KingKRool- t1_j8cnp0e wrote

Buying is not funding it.

He gave money to people no longer associated with it (they took the money with them) in exchange for ownership of the company. No additional funds were injected into the company by the transaction, only the person at the top of the chain changed.

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gee_gra t1_j8duf5x wrote

>he then used his money to get that taxpayer money

What a funny little sentence

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maxcorrice t1_j8duqpn wrote

That’s how lobbying for government contracts works

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gee_gra t1_j8dz7ds wrote

Okay? Still a funny little sentence, though apparently fairly normal for somewhere utterly corrupt like America lol

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maxcorrice t1_j8dzxbz wrote

Yep, didn’t say it wasn’t, it’s the reason the saying “gotta spend money to make money” exists

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