nitricx t1_j9mcb8s wrote
So disappointing. I love apple and have their entire ecosystem but damn it’s the same phone every year. Unless you’re a selfie queen/king nothing changes. I used to upgrade every year but stopped like 4 years back. A camera upgrade is not worth the price. Especially when I need a pro max size
ShakataGaNai t1_j9mhsg8 wrote
We've long since passed the high-speed innovation phase in phones. Until there is something drastic that changes in the technology available to mobile devices, we'll continue to see "boring" yearly revisions—slightly better camera, sensors, screen, etc.
There is not reason anyone to upgrade every year, with the exception of a very small minority. Even an every-other year upgrade cycle and probably be pushed to every 3 years, without being too far behind the curve.
VitaminPb t1_j9ng3sg wrote
I’m on an 11 Pro and might upgrade for the 15, mostly for storage.
DaoFerret t1_j9nmdrl wrote
I’m on an X. Just replaced the battery the second time and feeling it get sluggish sometimes.
Definitely thinking about the 15.
Legend4415 t1_j9nmz8o wrote
Fellow x owner! Thinking the same also. Specially if usb-c comes to the 15
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Awes0meApple t1_j9np3f4 wrote
120hz is literally useless. Sure it feels nice but its not very practical or useful for anyone on a phone.
Vindy500 t1_j9ntgzo wrote
How is feeling nice not practical or useful?
Awes0meApple t1_j9o0lwo wrote
Wtf. I‘ve been playing games on 144hz for over 10 years now. You legit only need higher hz for very hectic games otherwise it just won‘t make a difference. In the first 10min you think how amazing this feels and then you just forget about it because it makes 0 difference especially in phones. Movies and videos aren’t higher than 60fps most of the time and games on phones are absolutely not higher so you only notice the difference when scrolling. Very useful and practical indeed. But hey keep spending your money on useless shit none of my business.
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Awes0meApple t1_j9o40rz wrote
Of course you notice. I never said you wont notice. But the nice feeling dies down very quick once you get used to it (which you will extremely fast) and then only when you go back to lower hz you will notice it again. So it practically makes no difference. Even more when the only real purpose is for something as static as scrolling. 120hz won‘t improve your scrolling or add any new features. It‘s literally the same. What an absolutely laughable use case for high fps displays. And on top you get a worse battery life as well because the display drains more power.
_off_piste_ t1_j9nu9qd wrote
My 11 is feeling pretty slow and the memory is too little as apps are constantly refreshing when using the app switcher. These issues have me looking at getting a 15 even though there will be nothing magical about it compared to what I have. It will be a moderate upgrade across the board though.
DaoFerret t1_j9ojwqz wrote
It won’t feel magical to most people, but if you wait 2-3 cycles, enough upgrades accumulate that it becomes worthwhile (especially storage), and the longer useable lifespan helps defray the cost of a more expensive model (pro or more storage).
It’s the pattern of tech maturity we’ve seen in mainframes, desktops, laptops and handhelds since forever: rapid yearly advances at first as the market gets established and then longer periods of slower advancement as the market matures, often punctuated by actual disruptive innovation such as independent Graphics cards until the new technology also matures and the cycle continues.
ShakataGaNai t1_j9pf3xs wrote
I'm on a 12 Pro, I'll probably go to the 15 if it has USB-C. That's a big selling feature for me.
My wife was on the 11 and went to the 14.
Granted both of us do care about improved cameras on the phone because that's a big feature for us.
traveler19395 t1_j9ojzss wrote
11Pro here also, glad I got 256gb, still plenty for me, and a new battery around 2 years was worth it. Maybe I'll get a 16.
bicameral_mind t1_j9os6z9 wrote
I’m still on Xs and it performs very well still, still gets full OS updates. Only camera is missing some features but still very good with most important elements like telephoto and 4K 60fps. Easily 5 years life cycle with modern phones.
junkie-xl t1_j9oxgef wrote
I'll continue to upgrade my Pixel every year because it's only $400 after trade in. Latest soc, wifi, camera, screen and a fresh battery.
ShakataGaNai t1_j9pi38m wrote
Apple gives good trade-in values as well. If you have a 13 Pro Max and upgrade to a 14 Pro Max ($1099 base price), it's only $529 after trade-in. However, that's $45/mo you're paying for a phone. Not unreasonable, but a lot of money.
If you're a techy and want the latest and greatest all the time, then that price is probably worth it to you. But for the average consumer, that just doesn't make sense. The difference in SOC is only about 10% faster (according to geekbench) .
MorgaseTrakand t1_j9p96mc wrote
Yeah I'm curious how much longer it will be profitable to release a new phone every year. The updates are so small it feels like it hardly warrents the R&D and advertising
ShakataGaNai t1_j9ph1hz wrote
With how good Apple is at re-using their technology, quite some time. You see the camera modules re-used in multiple devices, the processors handed down from iPhone to iPad to Apple TV to HomePod. etc.
Plus, they are clearly still selling a lot of units each year. With less physical changes, they don't have to re-tool all of their manufacturing each year.
With less changes comes more efficiency and reduced costs, which means while less units may sell, they probably make more per unit sold.
EverydayTomasz t1_j9mirh0 wrote
I mean, they can only do so much to a rectangle. I'm happy if they would make a longer lasting battery and leave the rest of the phone the same. At this point, the camera, screen, and modem are pretty good. more storage space and better battery please!
Youvebeeneloned t1_j9mvrn0 wrote
Welcome to the modern age.... literally everyone is putting out the same phone with a little better specs...
The most innovative thing in recent years was the horrible not ready for prime time folding phone that has all but officially bombed and have struggled to gain any traction at all despite Samsungs massive amounts of throwing cash at the media to sell them.
nitricx t1_j9n40hr wrote
Dude and they’re crazy expensive. The big fold is like $1800. I won’t lie I thought about switching over but like I said already have the apple ecosystem. Also as shameful as it sounds the green bubble judgment is real.
jmedina94 t1_j9n8q7k wrote
I know somebody who spent tons of money on a fold and the screen cracked. Fortunately, the warranty covered it but he seems to think another defect is occurring.
I am totally into the Apple ecosystem but just bought an Android phone for fun because it was a good deal combined with a year of service. If anything, it can be a backup phone if an iPhone in our house breaks.
My main phone will continue to be my iPhone 13 Pro Max though.
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Look_to_the_Stars t1_j9ned40 wrote
All I want is an in-screen fingerprint scanner! Until then I’ll stick with my SE.
nitricx t1_j9nfdk9 wrote
Wouldn’t mind that either. I get very annoyed with the facial recognition. If I’m wearing my glasses or if I’m not looking directly at it it won’t unlock.
Osuno_Eve t1_j9n8rgb wrote
I'd buy a 15 Mini Pro. I don't feel like hauling around a giant phone.
nitricx t1_j9n92hq wrote
Getting older and I’m on my phone all day for work and generally time killing. As much as I hate that massive size it’s easier on my eyes.
appmapper t1_j9nhqhd wrote
Yeah. I had them all since the first iPhone, but stopped at the 11 Pro…
I was worried that once Jobs died that we would never see innovation again, only iteration. Sadly it appears I was right. I might get the 15 if it has USB-C. I’m just kind of sad because I used to look forward to the release every year.
CHANROBI t1_j9nhuob wrote
Heh that's funny
Camera improvements is pretty much the ONLY reason I buy a new iphone
kachol t1_j9o4o2c wrote
I just bought my first iPhone in a while and it felt good going back (had an S21 before, great phone). I think anyone getting a 11-14 will be fine with that phone for a few years. Aside from the cinematic mode there isnt much of a difference to my gfs iPhone 11
dma_pdx t1_j9ot4b2 wrote
Let me sell you this blackberry.
JLGx2 t1_j9oummd wrote
Wait, you're disappointed because you get the save money?
nitricx t1_j9p6sda wrote
No because of the lack of innovation. I’ve been saving money for years. I stopped upgrading yearly somewhere around the iPhone X doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see something new from them.
wigglee21_ t1_j9p62mm wrote
This video is from Tom Scott and it’s mostly about AI but he also briefly talks about how smartphone innovation has stalled. That stall is not only expected, it’s inevitable.
We’ve reached a plateau of innovation with smartphones. The next big thing might be AR/VR or it might be A.I. but it won’t be the iPhone 15 or 16
ARoodyPooCandyAss t1_j9qj9in wrote
Same - I will say this. I got the 14 after having the X since its release, 5 years was an eternity for me historically to upgrade. The speed and screen quality amongst the camera quality made it a worthy upgrade. I am set for years to come until that foldable phone patent rumor comes into fruition.
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