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[deleted] t1_isbn7h4 wrote

Reply to comment by wmurch4 in Meta’s VR Headset Harvests Personal Data Right Off Your Face - Cameras inside the device that track eye and face movements can make an avatar’s expressions more realistic, but they raise new privacy questions. by speckz

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iamchairs t1_isbrr7h wrote

Facebook does not promote divisive articles in the way you are implying. All these social media companies are playing the same game. Their algorithms help viral content achieve higher virality. The base algorithms do not care what the content is. Actually, a lot of work is done to stop the algorithm from promoting harmful content, but that often becomes a political question.

It's important to understand this. Because while it feels good to point at Facebook as "the bad guy" and call it a day. Every platform has the same problems. You are using one platform as a sacrificial lamb and turning a blind eye to problems that are apparent on all platforms.

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isbv8q1 wrote

>Their algorithms help viral content achieve higher virality.

By promoting them. So yes, Facebook does promote divisive articles to achieve higher virality. Look, just because you fancy it up, doesn't mean words have changed their meaning.

And yes, every platform has the same problem but their capability is very very small and lots of times, their capability is directly based on facebooks capability.

You could say that Facebook is the evil company that gives other companies bad ideas.

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iamchairs t1_isbvpgw wrote

I expected this would be your response more or less

Edit: Ah you changed your response after mine to flesh it out a bit. Keep it classy

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MorfiusX t1_isbwv7z wrote

I expected yours would be dismissive.

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iamchairs t1_isbx5g2 wrote

Well the trick here is the original response was just the top one. It did not address most of what I said but picked out the one thing where I technically agreed with them if you squinted. But after my response they changed theirs. So I'm only now dismissive after the commenter edited theirs

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc3fx0 wrote

Funny how that works eh. Every rebuttal I have shoots down your badly constructed ideas.

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iamchairs t1_isc3ohp wrote

That doesn't make sense. Touch grass

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc4los wrote

You first.

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iamchairs t1_isc4sn9 wrote

You know I can tell the first thing you do is downvote my posts. Why are you so upset?

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc58sb wrote

You don't seem to understand what the downvote represents.

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iamchairs t1_isc5tvn wrote

Yes it's how you bury content. But it's just you and me here and whoever is going to come after us to see where this thread leads to. At this point we are so far down and replying to each other so quickly we are essentially texting each orher. So by downvoting each of my texts as soon as you get them it seems like you are having a very emotional experience right now

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc37zt wrote

Well that's because unlike you, I don't make stupid arguments that are false. I know what words mean and I don't plan to sales talk my way out of bad things.

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iamchairs t1_isc3v1g wrote

Sorry if the words were big

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc4qkx wrote

You shouldn't be sorry the words were big. You should be sorry you thought I was an idiot and easily fooled by sugared tongues.

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iamchairs t1_isc5aeg wrote

Nah it's not misdirection. So as I explained there is a natural virality to content. The baseline for most of these algorithms is to notice when something is breaking out, and boost it further. That process is indifferent about the actual content

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Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_isc5n44 wrote

Yes and the virality is fed to people with competing ideas to rile them up and increase clicks. You're just telling me I'm wrong and then proving me right just in more words.

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iamchairs t1_iscuvss wrote

Pretty lazy response. But not surprising based on what I've seen so far.

When you focus all of your attention on Facebook like it's the final boss then you fail to address the systemic problems all of these platforms have.

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iamchairs t1_iscxhye wrote

I've hardly gone out of my way to be pro Meta. I've been fairly neutral the whole time on Meta but I've tried to be objective.

Whenever Meta is in the news we get dozens of these threads that are all the same thing.

Whenever another platform gets caught doing something evil those threads become what-about-facebook threads and, crucially, the thing platform X was doing never actually stops but we all got a good laugh at the old zuck so it's fine.

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iamchairs t1_iscztjx wrote

I'm just telling you how these algorithms work and what is public knowledge about Facebook and privacy policy. It's honestly pretty boring stuff. But if that's pro-Meta I don't know what is neutral. Their logo is blue... Is it like.. an evil blue?

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OmNomCakes t1_iscy7r2 wrote

Gauge your audience my dude. These people have no idea how or why tech works. They likely get upset when a phone app wants permission to calls thinking it's listening to them. See the Alexa comment above, they're referencing Alexa having to listen to things that aren't Alexa to know when you say Alexa.

And if you try to explain how software works you're a 'shill'. God forbid you show them how to monitor the actual physical traffic from the devices so they can see for themselves. They'd just say the device must be hiding it!

Probably the same people that say Google ads suck because all they show them is gay porn.

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OmNomCakes t1_ishoq0e wrote

I honestly don't use and hate Facebook. That's beside the point. The second anyone has a different opinion than you they MUST be a shill. God forbid someone see things differently or know more than you. I assume it's a defense mechanism to protect your ego.

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OmNomCakes t1_isi6ql8 wrote

See, there goes that ego again. Gotta try to make yourself feel and believe you're better than everyone else. Gotta try to talk down to everyone else. What an alpha.

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Can you imagine someone keeping their same opinion throughout one whole thread over one whole day? And not saying things off subject?! The nerve. Oh well, I guess if the guy only talks about Facebook in a post about Facebook and doesn't concede to your beliefs he must be a shill. The guy posts plenty of shit that isn't pro-facebook related, and most of his comments here aren't facebook related but general tech, software, and hardware related.

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But I'm going to go ahead and block you so you can get over it and go back to your closed minded better-than-thou mentality.

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