WalkerBRiley t1_iy59akb wrote on November 28, 2022 at 9:11 PM

I've seen these before. They just vibrate the surface. The bass sucks. The treble is tinny as fuck, if even there. It was a horrible idea twenty years ago and it's still a horrible idea now.

SamsaricNomad t1_iy5s2il wrote on November 28, 2022 at 11:21 PM

I am optimistic that the technology has advanced leaps and bounds. Esp if a giant like LG is involved.

Phone cameras were garbage 20 years ago when they came out and now a days a person can take a close up photo of the moon at 100x zoom.

Temporary_Draw_4708 t1_iy5una2 wrote on November 28, 2022 at 11:40 PM

There are still limitations because of basic physics. You’re going to need to be able to move a lot of air to get any decent amount of bass.

SamsaricNomad t1_iy5weuo wrote on November 28, 2022 at 11:53 PM

Science evolves. It always works with the limitations of known sciences from a particular frame of time, but it evolves.

They thought Newton was the end all be all until Albert Einstein came. My point is technological advancement, limitation is the first barrier that is broken during advancements.

Temporary_Draw_4708 t1_iy5x2dt wrote on November 28, 2022 at 11:58 PM

The basic physics of how sound works doesn’t change. To get loud bass notes, you need to be able to vibrate a lot of air. What technological advancements have broken fundamental concepts in physics?

SamsaricNomad t1_iy60a11 wrote on November 29, 2022 at 12:22 AM

Lol you’re stubborn aren’t you. This particular TASS(Thin Actuator Sound System) produces sound by vibrating off the panel/surface it is attached to. Look up the word innovation.

SamsaricNomad t1_iy60f9u wrote on November 29, 2022 at 12:23 AM

Also look up what was different between Newton and Einstein’s theory on gravity.

buffalohands t1_iy6y4os wrote on November 29, 2022 at 4:57 AM

Ok, i might be able to help with this. I'm an artists and I discovered the existence of this technology a few years ago. I wanted to make some art Installation with it and started experimenting.

The problem is: in a speaker, the vibration (just like what tass would produce) is basically just already "stuck" to the perfectly shaped and perfectly resonating surface ... And that's what we call a speaker. The perfect shape for sound into air is somewhat like a cone... Think megaphones etc. We all learn this as kids when screaming into various tubes and stuff. The perfect surface to resonate would be something thin and flexible but also not to thin because then it just wobbles away. So that's why you have these cone shaped cardboard things in your speaker. A speaker is basically a TASS that comes with its own built in perfect resonating surface.

You can of course improve this technology a bit with as was mentioned buit in equalizers to make up for "sub perfect" resonating surfaces that are too rigid or not cone shaped at all. But the principle will remain the same. There is nothing one can improve about how sound is transported through air. It's just how it works. And yes you can use almost any surface to vibrate it and it will transport these vibrations into the air. Just like you can hear loud music outside of a car. The whole care becomes the resonating surface that vibrates the air around you to reach your ears.

But all the comments that say: yeah it works but it sound funky are correct. Because any surface that is not cone shaped and not of a flexible yet rigid enough material will sound less nice as what we have in speakers.

The basic idea of an actuator is very old. Is a bit how old gramophones created their sound. The fact that we still went through all the trouble of inventing the speaker still speaks for itself.

Edit: some spelling (I'm on mobile sorry for format)