UpV0tesF0rEvery0ne t1_iyyfp8q wrote
It's hard to imagine anyone catching up with meta to be honest. They have invested agressivly and with billions of dollars developing so much new tech around flat lenses, ai based ar and camera tracking. Even with the workforce and money Apple has, is hard to compete with multiple billion dollars directed at one product.
unpeople t1_iyz7rux wrote
Meta spent $10 billion this year on VR, but they're a social media company, not a hardware manufacturer, so a lot of that was spent on things that Apple has already solved. Apple's annual R&D budget is $28 billion, and if the rumors of an impending headset are true, that means they've been working on it for years at this point. They've most likely outspent Meta by now, while having the advantage of decades of experience producing top tier hardware and operating systems, plus hundreds of hardware and software patents in their back pocket.
UpV0tesF0rEvery0ne t1_iz04gut wrote
That's a good point, but many of the reports I side apple point to them having thousands of projects on the go, some even designed to weed out leekers, empty projects to explore non commercial ideas and collect patents.
I would be suprised if the 28 billion is spread amongst hundreds of real products and metas 10 billion is focused around just a handful of vr/ar specific things
frontiermanprotozoa t1_iyzk18a wrote
meta has indeed done amazing things for pushing vr and making it affordable (among many terrible things) but they have an image issue they cant really solve by renaming themselves. Everyone and even their grandma has the phrase "facebook tracks you" or "facebook listens to your microphone" in their mind (regardless of truth). Its not enough for people to drop facebook or apps they already incorporated in their lives, but it will probably be enough for people resisting adoption of something you put on your head and changes what you see. It has a completely different place in peoples mind and has an entirely different psychology than a phone in your pocket. So apple with their (false) image of privacy and strong fanbase might just be the thing that pushes vr to mainstream.
Complete_Let3076 t1_iz0p6sa wrote
Metas investment into VR is pretty much worthless if people don’t believe in the product or company. I don’t really see a redemption arc in the works for them, but who knows. I don’t agree with you but I’m upvoting for adding to the conversation
Baby_bluega t1_iyynfun wrote
Well meta is going the complete wrong direction, but then again, I can't imagine Apple doing any better. Oculus cv1 was great. Rift s, was a bit if a downgrade. The quest was portable, so cool, but the processor is so weak it sucks, and is really only usable for a handful of games. Now they are releasing the quest pro for $1500, which is about absolute joke. For that price I can almost buy a varjo areo, which beats it by miles in every category and is made by some no name company. It has 1.5 times the resoltion in both width and hieght. I can buy a valve index for 2/3rds the price, and I would take that over a quest pro any day of the week.
I think quest is great for children that can't afford a gaming pc, but that's about it. Granted, that is most the matket.
Necrophag1st t1_iyyy50i wrote
Quest Pro is superior to the Index, even as a dedicated PCVR device.
UpV0tesF0rEvery0ne t1_iz059cp wrote
I have a 4090 and a index hooked up in my living room but I play on the quest 2 daily instead, it's just less hassle and works anywhere, in whatever room, in bed.
It's like I have a wireless index with a quest 2 and air link, my only gripe is the controllers
Baby_bluega t1_iz0dd5r wrote
Really? I thinking about selling my quest because I never use it. I use my index daily and got a quest because I found it on sale for $200 and thought it would be good for traveling. I just went away for a week, and brought my quest with me. It was so uncomfortable, and the tracking felt so terrible, graphics so bad that I couldn't play for more than 15 minutes before I decided I'd just rather be doing something else. Even when I use it for the purpose I bought it for, it's just not worth it wearing the damn thing imo. Honest to God I'd rather play on my cv1 for the better tracking alone. That might have to do with the type of game though. I play first person shooters where you need finely tuned tracking.
I know you get good graphics with pc, but it's still just way less comfortable, and the tracking is so much worse I would never use it over my index at home.
Not sute why the gpu is relevant, but I have a 3090ti.
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