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thecaramelbandit t1_iz0io3y wrote

Reply to comment by GlowforgePokemon62 in New type of surgical robot used to remove throat tumour by diacewrb

Lol. The robots are 0% autonomous. They are completely controlled by a surgeon sitting at a station with hand and foot controls and a 3d view screen.

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GlowforgePokemon62 t1_iz0k39d wrote

Surgical you are totally right! Clinical chemistry, pathology, and even aspects of oncology, not so sure I agree there is 0% automation.

Also the very fact that the robot in this article is operating in the patient is the definition of semi-autonomous which I would think is the first step

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thecaramelbandit t1_iz0kh27 wrote

>> semi-autonomous

No. I'm an anesthesiologist. I went to medical school. I spent months scrubbed into surgeries, often with robots. I've sat at the control stations. I literally spend all day in operating rooms.

They are not semi-autonomous. They are zero autonomous. You don't know what you're talking about, at all, and you need to stop defending your 100% uninformed statement.

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GlowforgePokemon62 t1_iz0uevg wrote

Are you telling me there is and never will be automation in clinical workspaces because you went to medical school? Or are you saying the robots you worked with medical school are not autonomous? Did you work with every robot in the hospital or just one or two boxes?

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Floedekartofler t1_iz1s8d3 wrote

There are not that many surgical robots on the market...

There are many autonomous machines (which I guess you could call robots) in a hospital. Autoclaves, scrub machines, blood sample analyzers. But there is a big gap from that to the work physicians perform.

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ohaikthxbai t1_iz352g5 wrote

The Versius robot is ZERO percent autonomous during actual operation on a patient. There are elements of instrument orientation/calibration that are automated but that technology has been around a long time for operating microscopes and, wait for it, autofocus cameras.

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GlowforgePokemon62 t1_iz0tun4 wrote

If a robot is doing a task under control of a human that is the definition of semi-autonomous.

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Floedekartofler t1_iz1skku wrote

By that definition we've had semi autonomous robots since the first car in the 1800s.

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sevo1977 t1_iz0l33i wrote

Buddy just stop. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

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GlowforgePokemon62 t1_iz0tn5z wrote

How so? I work in automation in Clinical settings. Your comment is really alarming to see from a random Reddit user,

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thecaramelbandit t1_iz1374s wrote

Your subreddits are mostly teenagers, Pokemon, dota, and crypto. I think we're done here.

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sevo1977 t1_iz10xbf wrote

I’ve worked with robots so I know what I’m talking about. You clearly don’t so just stop.

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Moon_Palace-banned t1_iz170px wrote

Any of those specialities you’re naming as ‘on the chopping block’ due to automation…that automation will still have to be verified by a set of human eyes. AI can have a massive databank of scans but nothing has replaced the eyes of experienced doctors when it comes to discrepancies or additional testing.

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