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The_Synthax t1_izhvi7m wrote

Reply to comment by threebillion6 in EU sets December 28th, 2024, deadline for all new phones to use USB-C for wired charging by speckz

They already have that, basically. And they just introduced a way to recover from certain soft bricks wirelessly too, no doubt in preparation of dropping a port altogether with only MagSafe and standard Qi for charging. My guess is they’ll have a hidden port inside the sim slot for recovering from bricks at an Apple Store. This would be almost identical to the way they handle a firmware restore on Apple Watch and Apple TV 4K, with the former having a Lightning protocol port hidden in the band mount and the latter having a Lightning protocol port behind a door inside the Ethernet jack. I say Lightning “protocol” because while it’s not a Lightning connector, it won’t speak USB until enumerated by a Lightning chip like those found in an iPhones lower ribbon cable.

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MindSwipe t1_iziboqk wrote

I'd be surprised if Apple keeps standard Qi charging once/ if they move to a portless iPhone, they'll probably be all like "Because many companies use Qi, the standard needs to move slow to ensure compatibility, which is why we courageously decided to no longer support Qi and introduce our new MagSafe 2.0, a much better standard than Qi"

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ypwu t1_izju1z9 wrote

And in reality Qi will get 40Gbps bandwidth and upto 100W power delivery eventually while MagSafe 2.0 will be stuck on 18W and USB 2.0 (480Mbps) speeds. And apple will still keep claiming MagSafe 2.0 is better

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aminy23 t1_izjyy4x wrote

Wired data transfers are becoming increasingly niche.

There's some speculation that Apple might move to Thunderbolt on future high end iPhones. There is a possibility that 20 gigabit - 40 gigabit connectivity could be Apple exclusive for a while.

Neither Qi nor MagSafe is about data transfers.

WiFi already handles data transfers and is constantly getting faster. My WiFi 6 mesh outperforms my CAT5 wiring in my house.

It's left me in a conundrum of running CAT7-8 in my walls, or just expecting WiFi 7-8 to be fast enough.

60 Ghz WiFi already exists for high speed data transfers over short distances in a true wireless manner. It wouldn't be hard to add this to a phone.

The main need for such high bandwidth is usually for large devices like monitors which aren't typically connected to phones.

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SigmaLance t1_izimmrv wrote

My iPhone does not have a SIM slot so there will have to be an alternative way. They could just as easily repurpose the current charging port into a diagnostics/repair slot as well.

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creamsodas t1_izjarmo wrote

except apple is getting rid of physical sim cards and slots to move exclusively to e-sim

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AreWeNotDoinPhrasing t1_izk822i wrote

I’ve been trying to look in to the Apple Watch lightning protocol thing but am coming up empty. The only thing I’ve seen was that there was a myth that there was a lightning port behind the band and that it had been debunked. I know they could communicate with like smart plugs like on the back of iPads, but don’t see anything like that on my watch. I’m wondering how they access this lightning protocol at the store.

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